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Anti-Vaxxer Rally…Creepy?
When anti-vaxxer rallies begin to look like
The Nuremberg Rally, should we be concerned:
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If not, why not?
The Nuremberg Rally, should we be concerned:
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If not, why not?
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// According to the Gov. (MHRA) 1,500 people have died shortly after an adverse reaction to the Covid vaccine since Nov2020 in this country . // This is at best highly misleading. https://
19:13 Sun 25th Jul 2021
Alright, Corby. I can see you're dying to prove me wrong again.
I can only repeat what I pointed out to Jim.
//To be clear , I reported exactly what the Gov. report stated. No more, no less. I haven't claimed to know the scale of vaccine-caused deaths let alone exaggerated them.//
Exactly what part of that don't you understand?
I can only repeat what I pointed out to Jim.
//To be clear , I reported exactly what the Gov. report stated. No more, no less. I haven't claimed to know the scale of vaccine-caused deaths let alone exaggerated them.//
Exactly what part of that don't you understand?
//The backtracking starts. It wasn't a few hundred, it was one hundred.//
I should have been clearer initially that "one hundred" was an order of magnitude estimate rather than a central value estimate. I apologise for not being specific enough. I was, however, also explicit that I didn't know the precise figure, so that any figure I *did* give automatically comes with some uncertainty. In this case, the uncertainty is "plus or minus one digit", which as I have explained is a standard estimation technique. Still, I should have said "a few hundred" from the start. On the other hand, adding clarity isn't backtracking. My assessment of the comparative risks of vaccines v. disease is hardly reliant on the distinction between, say, 100 vaccine-caused deaths and 500 vaccine-caused deaths. However tragic the extra 400 deaths are, the difference on the scale of total administered vaccines -- over four billion -- simply doesn't register.
I should have been clearer initially that "one hundred" was an order of magnitude estimate rather than a central value estimate. I apologise for not being specific enough. I was, however, also explicit that I didn't know the precise figure, so that any figure I *did* give automatically comes with some uncertainty. In this case, the uncertainty is "plus or minus one digit", which as I have explained is a standard estimation technique. Still, I should have said "a few hundred" from the start. On the other hand, adding clarity isn't backtracking. My assessment of the comparative risks of vaccines v. disease is hardly reliant on the distinction between, say, 100 vaccine-caused deaths and 500 vaccine-caused deaths. However tragic the extra 400 deaths are, the difference on the scale of total administered vaccines -- over four billion -- simply doesn't register.
Well, I think it's worth taking into consideration for the young/children. Presumably the Gov. thought so too when they banned the use of the AZ vaccine in the Under 40's.
Anyway, I'm not against the vaccine if that's the impression I've given.
Just believe people should have the right to peaceful protest. Don't like the idea of Covid Passports. (another 'conspiracy theory' that became reality)
And I must admit I can only take so much from uninformed, pious vaccine fascists. ;-)
Anyway, I'm not against the vaccine if that's the impression I've given.
Just believe people should have the right to peaceful protest. Don't like the idea of Covid Passports. (another 'conspiracy theory' that became reality)
And I must admit I can only take so much from uninformed, pious vaccine fascists. ;-)
// Anyway, I'm not against the vaccine if that's the impression I've given. Just believe people should have the right to peaceful protest. //
Of course, although the right to peaceful protest doesn't rule out other people calling the protesters wrong -- and, in this case, the protest also had some strange overtones. Let us grant that the former nurse speaking at this protest was merely using flowery rhetoric when talking about nurses and doctors being hanged, but it's still straying somewhat from the standard understanding of "peaceful" to be even hinting at death threats.
// Don't like the idea of Covid Passports. (another 'conspiracy theory' that became reality) //
I've posted my current opinion on that in a separate thread on the topic. Just to say that I'm wildly advocating for the use of vaccines, but not to the extent of making them mandatory.
// And I must admit I can only take so much from uninformed, pious vaccine fascists. ;-) //
Not sure who in this thread counts as a fascist, or uninformed or pious for that matter.
Of course, although the right to peaceful protest doesn't rule out other people calling the protesters wrong -- and, in this case, the protest also had some strange overtones. Let us grant that the former nurse speaking at this protest was merely using flowery rhetoric when talking about nurses and doctors being hanged, but it's still straying somewhat from the standard understanding of "peaceful" to be even hinting at death threats.
// Don't like the idea of Covid Passports. (another 'conspiracy theory' that became reality) //
I've posted my current opinion on that in a separate thread on the topic. Just to say that I'm wildly advocating for the use of vaccines, but not to the extent of making them mandatory.
// And I must admit I can only take so much from uninformed, pious vaccine fascists. ;-) //
Not sure who in this thread counts as a fascist, or uninformed or pious for that matter.
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