Bowling for Canada question below

[newtron]

I see it but can't access it when I click on it. Is anyone else having this problem?

[WaldoMcFroog]

I'm not aware that I mentioned the first plane...

As others have pointed out, Bush has stated that he saw the first plane hit before entering the classroom.

His words were, ""Actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." But I was whisked off there - I didn't have much time to think about it."

It was *after* this that he went into the classroom.

I agree entirely that most people thought the first plane was a terrible accident until the second one went in. I certainly did.

The video records how long it was between being told the second plane had gone in and 'We're under attack' from Andrew Card and Bush doing anything.

[mountainboo]

Ok. Waldo, did they have an allie in Afganistan who was assasinated on 10th Sept 2001? There are so many things I want to know but I guess I never will.

[admarlow]

The thing is with wasing things like USA were warned about 9/11 is that I am sure the CIA, FBI etc get tip off that there is going to be an attack every single day (probabily many times) so even if someone did say there will be an attack on 9/11 it could have just been another crazy, or a real warning lost amoungst all the crazys.

[admarlow]

sorry not wassing!!! but saying.

[mountainboo]

hhmmm yeah that true. How come they didn't do anything about the highjackers of flight 11 when they knew they were acting suspicious at the flight school?

[shellshocked]

the question was about Michael Moore's Bias approach to the whole incident...

there are SOOO many factors that people don't consider, things are very different depending on your situtation..

.there could have been no reason or a million reasons why GWB waited so long..or why they didn't know about terrorists learning to fly...it's all very easy to talk about..

I'll bet most people will say they would have over-powered the hi-jackers (myself included) but I'm a positive I would feel at least a bit different if I were there..

[sp1814]

admarlow's right...governments have agencies who's sole purpose is to listen to 'chatter'. This may mean covert surveillance, monitoring of chat rooms etc etc.

Problem is...there's SO much chatter, that sorting the wheat from the chaff is a long and extremely complex process.

Incidentally, I have no idea whether I spelled 'surveillance' correctly.

[sp1814]

shellshocked...you make some good points there...however, one thing about Michael Moore and bias - yes, he IS biased, but then so are we. If I were making a film about something I'm passionate about (such as Kylie or Egg McMuffins), I wouldn't feel the need to present the facts in a balanced way...I would present them in a way to support my argument

[WaldoMcFroog]

Original question's back...

[mountainboo]

I see sp1814. So basically then I shouldn't believe everything in that documentary? There are things we shall never know but farenheit 9/11 left me feeling as though Bush was in the same league as Hitler. Surely he cares for his country and doesn't have loyalties to the Saudi's?

[admarlow]

but I feel there is a line between your own opinion, and presenting that opinion as a hard fact (which it isn't)

[sp1814]

admarlow

Actually, I never thought he did that. What he DOES do, which is equally sneaky, is to present actual facts, but then suggest motive behind those facts.

You can have someone do something and have two observers come to completely different conclusions as to that person's motives.

MM suggested motives all over the place, and some of his arguments were persuasive and some of them sounded, well, a bit far fetched.

[wnjxc21]

how strange...my question AND account re-instated!