Johnson Brings Peashooter To Gunfight

[Stickybottle]

That is the analogy from Sky News :
https://news.sky.com/story/turning-up-to-a-gunfight-with-a-peashooter-johnson-under-fire-for-limited-sanctions-against-russia-12549233

I indicated as much yesterday on the Well Done Boris thread
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1786265.html

So is the the strong and forthright leadership we have been waiting for from Bozo since the Partygate furore ? Is this ‘getting on with the job’ by his standards ?

Found wanting and woefully inadequate again it would appear

Or is he doing the marvellous job that some of the deluded on here believe he is ?

Dropping Covid restrictions early against the medical advice and handling this crisis poorly will not save him from Gray 2.0 and the Met inquiry will it ?

[ichkeria]

I'm a big knocker too :-)

If people want to keep slagging Johnson off on a forum, it's irritating to be honest in the current times, but up to them, but what I really do not want to see is parliament distracted by partygate etc when we have a common enemy to deal with.
People's lives and freedoms are at stake. And moreover in a country not in this day and age a million miles from here, and indeed potentially even in countries even closer.

[Stickybottle]

ToraToraTora
the problem is ich that I want to oppose the Russians, the authors etc of this thread just want too knock the PM because party gate didn't work.
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Wrong again
Just be nice to have someone in charge who actually knew what they were doing but also had the respect of other world leaders in respect of having authority and gravitas
Not a laughable clown with a zero in those facets
If you believe Bozo is the person to lead the UK through any crisis there really is no hope
Oh for another Thatcher at this precise moment in time

[ichkeria]

So lest there be any doubt, I'm 100% behind the PM and the cabinet, most of whom in normal times I have had little times for.

[Gromit]

The last lot of Sanctions caused economic damage to a number of EU countries, with total losses estimated at €100 billion.

Thankfully Boris has targeted banks and individuals that have almost no presence in the UK, so the economic damage to ourselves will be minimal. Sadly their effect will be minimal too, but it is a start.

[Bazile]

Sanctions are not going to deter Putin .
I would have thought that was obvious .

Unless the US/Germany / Britain et al are prepared put boots on the ground , (and there is no appetite for that ) Ukraine will become part of the Russia state

[royfromaus]

I very much doubt that.

[Stickybottle]

Exactly Bazile

As much as I want the strongest possible sanctions to be implemented immediately it is already too late
Putin knows it
That is why I said on another thread that we may as well leave him to it

The west has waited far too long
Invading Crimea
Interfering in elections
Murdering and attempting to murder dissidents and opponents on foreign soil and each time he was treated tamely in response

He already knows he has the west in his pocket and has thus acted accordingly

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "If people want to keep slagging Johnson off on a forum, it's irritating to be honest in the current times, but up to them, but what I really do not want to see is parliament distracted by partygate etc when we have a common enemy to deal with. " - dream on ich, people like Gromit and SB don't care about the big issues all they want to do is lob muck at Boris. They are still bitter at brexit and also that their beloved Abacus and Cobstello are not in no 10. Little details like the invasion and subjugation of a sovereign democracy are of no concern to them, they just want the cheap points.

[Stickybottle]

From Sky :

But the reaction from MPs in the Commons yesterday made clear many did not feel the current action goes far enough.
Some Conservatives, echoing Russian experts, queried the logic currently being employed by both the UK and US of keeping some tougher sanctions in reserve - "not firing all your bullets at once", as one Whitehall insider put it to me.
MPs asked whether it would not be a better deterrent to prevent further Russian incursion to hit Russia with the full force of sanctions now.

[ichkeria]

"He already knows he has the west in his pocket and has thus acted accordingly "

I actually disagree with that.
We should not, as I said before, beat ourselves up about what4 we have failed to do before.
I do think that MH17 should have been the catalyst to use the SWIFT option, but it is always easy to be wise after the event, and in any case it is very unlikely, bad as that and what preceded it were, that it would have been possible to keep a united front against Putin.
Now it is different: Putin is plainly hellbent on a course which actually might well be his own downfall. He looks deranged and isolated to me and he has united the free world against him.
Nothing is going to deter him short of a direct confrontation with NATO and to be perfectly honest I'm not even convinced that that would.
As I said before, the chief obstacle to his progress will be Ukraine's resistance, hopefully aided as much as possible from outside

[Ken4155]

"Abacus and Cobstello" - "cheap points."
No comment:-/

[royfromaus]

TTT
dream on ich, people like Gromit and SB don't care about the big issues all they want to do is lob muck at Boris. They are still bitter at brexit
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Gromit may be but isn't Sticky a Brexiteer?

[ichkeria]

""Abacus and Cobstello"

That actually made me laugh.
If I was Corbyn I'd be relieved I'm not the PM today. He can retreat to his comfort zone of perpetual anti-western protests.

[Stickybottle]

Seems my reply to TTT got removed
To clarify then :

This ‘lefty’ voted for Brexit and voted Conservative at the last GE

Please try to keep up with ABers political leanings

It will prevent you from looking silly with your wildly inaccurate assumptions

[Gromit]

Sanctions imposed after Russia’s annexation of Crimea, cause a financial crisis that harmed the Russian e onomy greatly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_financial_crisis_(2014–2016)