Truss Today

[Paigntonian]

Think of her what you will but she'll need balls of steel to get through PMQs today. A gargantuan task.

[drmorgans]

Naomi, apologies; you agree with me then?

[emmie]

just my thoughts on the matter.

[naomi24]

drmorgans, it's an absolute disaster - but I never thought she was up to the job anyway and made that quite clear here.

[FatticusInch]

From Sky News:

'Only way out of this mess' is for Truss to stand down, says Conservative peer
Conservative peer Lord Ed Vaizey said "the only way out of this mess" is for Liz Truss to stand down and for somebody to be appointed as prime minister by Conservative MPs.
"That is still fraught with problems," he told BBC Radio 4.
He said it is clear from Suella Braverman's resignation letter that she regards herself as a credible candidate to be prime minister.
"And in terms of kind of shocking self-belief there will be at least five or six people out there who genuinely believe they could be the next prime minister," Lord Vaizey said.
"So if the Tory Party cannot have a degree of self-knowledge and realise that the only way forward is to appoint someone they're pretty much sunk."
Lord Vaizey said that even if Rishi Sunak was appointed, he thinks there would be elements of the party who would potentially regard him as an "illegitimate" leader.
"So it is a two-stage process, both of which are extremely difficult to affect - appoint a leader and then have that leader lead a loyal parliamentary party that does what it's asked to do over the next two years and delivers Crispin's (Blunt) thesis of sound money and stable government."

[FatticusInch]

Take note, Bobbinwales.
Read it slowly so you can digest it properly.

/Truss 'messed up more badly than anyone could have imagined' - influential Tory
The influential - particularly on the right of the party - former Brexit minister Lord Frost has written a piece in The Daily Telegraph calling for Liz Truss to go.
He says the Tory party is "in shock" at the "chaos" the government finds itself in - and that the PM "messed things up more badly than anyone could have imagined".
His view is that after junking nearly all the mini-budget, the government is "implementing neither the programme Liz Truss originally advocated nor the 2019 manifesto"./

[lady-janine]

Fatti - Ed Vaizey? Do you really think that he can be trusted whatever he says or does?

[naomi24]

LJ, it doesn't matter. If someone is saying something that suits Fatticusinch's agenda, it'll do.

[FatticusInch]

lady-janine
//Fatti - Ed Vaizey? Do you really think that he can be trusted whatever he says or does?//

Sky News probably take the words and thoughts of a certain Tory grandee with a big if gravitas, that’s my guess?
What’s your take on the present government and their standing?

[FatticusInch]

*bit of

[FatticusInch]

naomi24
//LJ, it doesn't matter. If someone is saying something that suits Fatticusinch's agenda, it'll do.//

The irony is he’s saying about Truss exactly what you’ve said.
Do you understand that? Lol

[Khandro]

naomi ; // Wasn't she aware that they had 'policy differences'? //

I just can't make it out; Truss appointed Braverman because she (Brav.) had strong views on stopping immigration & it was thought that she had the legal skills to stop these endless challenges to deportations.

Then she was hampered by being refused the staffing she needed, & also by the fact that Truss is actually in favour of even more immigration which she thinks will help the economy !!!

[naomi24]

Bizarre innit.

[lady-janine]

Fatti - I think the present government are like very confused and unsure fish who are trying to swim in both directions or thinking of going round in circles in a glass bowl whilst trying to escape the gaze of the public.
Not very successfully.

[drmorgans]

Intellectual dissonance, wanting two mutually exclusive things

[FatticusInch]

lady-janine
//Fatti - I think the present government are like very confused and unsure fish who are trying to swim in both directions or thinking of going round in circles in a glass bowl whilst trying to escape the gaze of the public.
Not very successfully//

So in essence what Vaizey said?
You AND naomi24 are in complete agreement with him then?!
Irony not your strong suit either, obviously.