We Are Our Brother's Keeper After All

[barry1010]

If you are famous. I'm no fan of Philip Schofield but I really don't think his brother's court case would have attracted so much press attention if he didn't have a famous brother.

I would not be surprised if Philip Schofield's work dries up altogether. Is this fair? I'm not speculating about the court case, just the media attention given to the famous brother.

[Old_Geezer]

I doubt he'd be affected that much. Today's news used to be tomorrow's chip-paper.

[douglas9401]

Okay then.

[barry1010]

OG, he has lost a lot of lucrative advertising work because of the queue jump scandal last year.

[Old_Geezer]

I think he may actually have been involved in that one.

[barry1010]

Good point

[jno]

that thought occurred to me too. It's not a pleasant case but it would barely have made the news without the celebrity connection. But as Philip's had a statement read out in court it's not quite accurate to say he's not involved.

[MissTerious2]

Is thrtra link to this. In dont know anything about it and I'm too lazy to search!

[jno]

https://news.sky.com/story/phillip-schofields-brother-weeps-in-court-as-he-denies-sexually-abusing-teenager-12845713

[MissTerious2]

Thanks jno.

I agree with you Barry. Media again stirring it all up. I'm no fan of Philip, but it could well affect his popularity, which has already taken a dive.

[barry1010]

He is involved with the court case as a witness but he did not commit the offence, nor could he have prevented it (as far as we know).

Every headline I have seen about this case has 'Philip Schofield' prominently displayed.

[Peter Pedant]

I am surprised it was admitted as evidence. I suppose it is not hear-say as the other party is available to give his side of the story. Even so - it is clearly NOT 'best evidence'

unless that lad comes over in court as a total gorm

The other side is - - that the story shows that the Perp had no criminal intent, or else wdnt have talked about it. - This was used successfullyt in the case where the Tommies abused the Iraqi prisoners and took photos and showed them around the pub
- well they wdnt have done that it they thought it as a crime.... ( acquitted)

as for the jobs - Gamba, Elton J, Cliff , Dirk B have all weathered gay scandals

sozza this post is a bit non-mimsy - but it is about underage ( I thought he wasnt) gay sex

[jno]

barry, I think if a celeb is a witness in any case at all it will make it into the papers. Though I'm not quite sure what's going on here, why someone is just having a statement read out in court rather than actually giving evidence.

[THECORBYLOON]

Since Philip Schofield was the one having the conversation with his brother and has given a statement about it, how is that hearsay?

[lankeela]

I haven't read anything about this, apart from seeing the headline but as long as people are talking about it and reading the articles then the papers are going to use the celebrity name to reel you in. It obviously works!

[Peter Pedant]

Hearsay
because it is a reported conversation and nothing else.

NJ cd state the law correctly.

If the police came to me and said Mrs X has said you told her the King had a big nose, I wd be inclined to say so what
Perhaps I mean uncorroborated tittle tattle that has no probative value.
DOI: I have been the wrong end of Mrs X ( I was her creditor which she seemed not to have told the police) says you are a child molester - what do you say to THAT?

witness statements
https://www.hse.gov.uk/enforce/enforcementguide/investigation/witness-witness.htm

statement read out in court - so not cross examinable - BUT it may have been agreed. But I have seen agreed statements laboriously repeated in court at the insistence of the prosecutor. The defence said: this is agreed, I can do nothing about it .
Four days at £10 000 a day. Mind bog-gooling

[Peter Pedant]

oh lardy-dah ( that is much more mimsy - mimsy score 10)

[jno]

I can't think why the defendant would have agreed this particular statement, since it amounts to him confessing. But maybe there's something familial going on.

[THECORBYLOON]

As I understand it as Philip Schofield is not there to be questioned about his statement, that is hearsay.

The hearsay I'm more familiar with is witness A saying, B telt me he heard C saying "blah blah" so it is second-hand evidence.