Braverman.

[gulliver1]

Sunak has defended Braverman, after she asked Civil servants to help get her Special treatment
after she was booked for speeding. She asked them how to avoid points on her licence , and how to avoid attending a speed awareness course with other people. I/E (members of the public).
....After all she is a member of CPPC.,,,,, One law for them again..

[DTCwordfan]

Pathetic, Gulliver, pathetic. Woman MP pays fine and asks someone for advice about taking a course in private so that she can spend more time on her ministerial duties.....she ends up deciding to take the points and pay up. This is you, Yvette and the rest of your socialist mafia looking to stir the bottom of the sewerage tank up and a complete waste of time - and a disgrace for what the opposition should stand for.

And bless your Fiona - did she bonk Boris too, probably not you?

[douglas9401]

"...taking a course in private so that she can spend more time on her ministerial duties"

The course is the course, no more time for work would have been available even supposing that flimsiest of excuses you've just thought up was used.

The woman's a liability

[Peter Pedant]

so.. a lawyer says I do that often ( broached on R4 this am) and so what a lawyer says and does, is OK
but heavens if a SPAD or SIr Humphrey does it, it is treason

even the Beeb realised the difficulties in that

move along - nothing to see

[Peter Pedant]

OK not treason

but is so shocking that the pen pusher spends a sleepless night tossing ( yeah OK I dont think Boris tosses much) and turning, wondering on the ethics

[Peter Pedant]

I think she has a case for:

I was given such bad advice by my staff ( o minister, i dont think you can do THAT ! ) when everyone in fact does
that I have a case for suing for damages

[Ellipsis]

> Not correct. The participants of a speed awareness course on a zoom meeting do not see their fellow offenders. Fact

Yes they do. Fact. Their name is seen when they are talking. Also the person running the course uses the first name of the offender when talking to them, so everyone else can see both the face and the first name - exactly as if they were on a physical course rather than on a video conference.

[Hymie]

[tomus42]

She asked if there was a way she could do the course on a one to one basis. They said no, so she took the points instead.

As much as I dislike her, it doesn't sound like much of a breach of anything.

[brainiac]

What she got wrong was asking civil servants in her department to ask for a private course on her behalf. She (and everyone else, for that matter,) was/is entitled to ask for a private course.
I don't see it as a huge scandal.

[Peter Pedant]

god it makes a case for having meetings without any Humphreys present ( helping and taking notes).

which was the case before 1916 - (when the cabinet decided 'X' and David lloyd George went out and said they had decided 'not-X')
oops ! well not really - the old goat said - - not oops, we decided 'not-X' Loud squawking from the cabinet

[Peter Pedant]

What she got wrong was asking civil servants in her department to ask for a private course on her behalf.

the bit I dont get is that it is so very very wrong to ask a whitehall pen pusher
but if you ask a lawyer, it is OK - ( lawyer rang in to say he did it regularly)

(R4 this am, even the Lady High Commissioneress of pen pushers and paper shufflers was a bit wrong footed by that one)