The Plot

[Gromit]

// Why is it that we have had five Conservative prime ministers since 2010, with not one of the previous four having left office as the result of losing a general election? That is a democratic deficit which the mother of parliaments should be deeply ashamed of and which, as you and I know, is the result of the machinations of a small group of individuals embedded deep at the centre of the party and Downing Street. //

Does a Plot exist ?

[THECORBYLOON]

Did her hero, Boris Johnson, not become PM as a result of, "the result of the machinations of a small group of individuals"?

[naomi24]

Don't think so, Corby. I think most of the country wanted rid of May.

[THECORBYLOON]

Her letter doesn't exclude him from those machinations, does it?

[naomi24]

Not with you.

[ichkeria]

In the end there was certainly a concerted effort to get rid of him that is obvious but only after ministers and MPs had remained steadfastly loyal to him despite his dishonesty. Pincher was the final straw: they’d been lied to in briefings long enough. Even when the resignations grew and grew he was determined to cling on: and his behaviour to the PM and government since just shows he was unfit for his office.
Which is actually a shame because he had many good points. Doesn’t matter a damn of course but I was prepared to let the lockdown stuff go because of his stand on Ukraine. And then Pincher happened and for many it was one cover up too many

[webbo3]

We run a parliamentary democracy, we elect the part and the party elects the leader

[Old_Geezer]

It isn't really practical to force a GE every time there's a perceived policy change.

If folk opt to choose their candidate because of a party leader then that's their choice, but they then should accept that the leader can change, and perhaps they ought to have put more store on the local candidates they could have chosen.

[tomus42]

Of course there was a plot to get rid of Boris Johnson.

There's a plot to get rid of everyone that isn't wanted any more but doesn't want to go. They'd still be there otherwise.

[Old_Geezer]

You need to finish the sentence properly.

There's a plot to get rid of everyone that isn't wanted any more ... by some self appointed group with power, who then wishes install their preferred individual instead, despite what the nation does or doesn't want, as they don't care about the electorate.

[ToraToraTora]

So what are you suggesting gromit? There is a GE every time a PM resigns? Some sort of separate election for the PM? PM's from labour, Whig and Tory have parties have resigned in the past and the PM ship passed to the new leader. It happens more for the Tories because they are in the majority of the time.

[drmorgans]

To lose one PM in one parliament might be regarded as a misfortune, to lose two, looks like carelessness, and lose three, comical.

[Old_Geezer]

Those that organise who is going to win the leadership are getting it wrong, presumably because they want the nation to go in a direction few others want or need. So their choice is inadequate.

We all end up continually getting the wrong lizard.

[tomus42]

//Those that organise who is going to win the leadership are getting it wrong,//

The Tories you mean? Yeah, no ship Sherlock. Truss was a brilliant choice. Thankfully there a plot to get rid of her too.

[Old_Geezer]

I mean whoever acts a kingmaker behind the scenes and convinces other candidates whether to stand or not for the sake of their car... er I mean party.