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Stop The Boats Not Working – It’s The Fault Of The Labour Party Who Have Not Been In Power For 13 Years
.......according to Suella Braverman.
As the narrator says, there are a number of racist & bigots who will continue to believe/defend this policy and Braverman (are you one of them?).
As the narrator says, there are a number of racist & bigots who will continue to believe/defend this policy and Braverman (are you one of them?).
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//I don’t care what the colour of a person’s skin is, if they are corrupt, incompetent, dishonest etc – I will call them out for it.
If that is being racist, so be it.//
Very noble. But is there yet any news on my question. In case you've forgotten: does my argument against the continued large scale influx of people from France arriving here to claim asylum (the reasons for which I've explained quite clearly) make me a bigot and a racist?
If that is being racist, so be it.//
Very noble. But is there yet any news on my question. In case you've forgotten: does my argument against the continued large scale influx of people from France arriving here to claim asylum (the reasons for which I've explained quite clearly) make me a bigot and a racist?
//I wonder if there would be such an outcry about the number of immigrants arriving in the UK if their skin was white and they were of English heritage.//
Once again you misunderstand and, by implication, falsely accuse those who are concerned about this problem of racism.
Last year the number of long-term immigrants granted right to settle in the UK was 1.2 million. The number to which this question refers (those arriving from France by small boat) was around 44,000. So around 28 times as many migrants arrived here with leave to do so, than those who didn’t have permission. Among the 1.2m were many people whose skin was not white and whose heritage was almost certainly not English. Yet, although these numbers are extremely high (and some people, me included, would suggest they are excessively so) there is nowhere near the furore (if there is any at all) about these arrivals.
Your notion that people who are opposed to small-boat migration are racists is therefore, once again, unfounded. People concerned about the small boat problem are not particularly interested in the colour of the arrivals’ skin. If they were, they would be far more concerned about the 1.2m “legal” arrivals than they are with the 44k “illegal” ones (please don’t argue about the “illegal” description – I know you consider small boat arrivals not to be illegal and I’ve used those terms just to differentiate between the two). But they’re not so worried. I don’t see any widespread opposition or “outcry” to the conventional arrivals – whatever the colour or their skin – and no moves by the government to counter the problem (who in fact are actively encouraging it by providing visas for entry).
In short, your furtive claim that people opposed to the small boat arrivals are racist is unfounded. So whilst we’re on that subject, which you keep on resurrecting without foundation, any views yet on whether my argument against such arrivals makes me racist?
Once again you misunderstand and, by implication, falsely accuse those who are concerned about this problem of racism.
Last year the number of long-term immigrants granted right to settle in the UK was 1.2 million. The number to which this question refers (those arriving from France by small boat) was around 44,000. So around 28 times as many migrants arrived here with leave to do so, than those who didn’t have permission. Among the 1.2m were many people whose skin was not white and whose heritage was almost certainly not English. Yet, although these numbers are extremely high (and some people, me included, would suggest they are excessively so) there is nowhere near the furore (if there is any at all) about these arrivals.
Your notion that people who are opposed to small-boat migration are racists is therefore, once again, unfounded. People concerned about the small boat problem are not particularly interested in the colour of the arrivals’ skin. If they were, they would be far more concerned about the 1.2m “legal” arrivals than they are with the 44k “illegal” ones (please don’t argue about the “illegal” description – I know you consider small boat arrivals not to be illegal and I’ve used those terms just to differentiate between the two). But they’re not so worried. I don’t see any widespread opposition or “outcry” to the conventional arrivals – whatever the colour or their skin – and no moves by the government to counter the problem (who in fact are actively encouraging it by providing visas for entry).
In short, your furtive claim that people opposed to the small boat arrivals are racist is unfounded. So whilst we’re on that subject, which you keep on resurrecting without foundation, any views yet on whether my argument against such arrivals makes me racist?
NJ, I agree with what you say, but the marked difference between the legal & illegals is that the former are here to study - there are around 7,250 fee paying students from Asia (including 5,000 from China) currently studying at the University of Edinburgh alone ! - or take up employment & the latter are, to a man, (& occasionally a woman) here living off the UK taxpayers & are likely to do so for a long time unless there are some dramatic changes made.
//...the marked difference between the legal & illegals is that the former are here to study//
Totally accept that, Khandro. My point (in relation to this particular thread) is that nobody seems to exhibit racist attitudes towards them (well, allegedly racist according to the OP). Yet they are more numerous and overwhelmingly not of white skin or of English Heritage. So the idea that people objecting to small boat arrivals are racist is unfounded. Race has nothing to do with it. It's the fact that they are taking advantage of a system that is no longer fit for purpose, and using it "to start a new life" (principally because they don't like it where they are). That is not the function of the asylum system and it needs addressing. To be told it is racist or bigoted to hold such a view is extremely tiresome.
Totally accept that, Khandro. My point (in relation to this particular thread) is that nobody seems to exhibit racist attitudes towards them (well, allegedly racist according to the OP). Yet they are more numerous and overwhelmingly not of white skin or of English Heritage. So the idea that people objecting to small boat arrivals are racist is unfounded. Race has nothing to do with it. It's the fact that they are taking advantage of a system that is no longer fit for purpose, and using it "to start a new life" (principally because they don't like it where they are). That is not the function of the asylum system and it needs addressing. To be told it is racist or bigoted to hold such a view is extremely tiresome.
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