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Voters Aren't Talking About Brexit....

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mushroom25 | 15:55 Fri 22nd Sep 2023 | News
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so says Ed Davey on the eve of the Lib-Dem conference - 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66878234

wishful thinking on his part? clearly Mr Davey has never heard of AB, or "my mate Phil".......

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Our health workers move for a better life.

Incoming health workers move for a better life

Everybody is just doing what they can to get on but in the end the poorest suffer.

It's just life and short of banning movement of people ther's little to be done about it, unless you stop peeing people off on a regular basis.

gromit: "but no one thinks it has been a success." - I do, the aim was to extricate ourselves from the EUSSR, we have, end of.

Ellipsis: "It's a bit like the £10 poms of 50 years ago ... the Brits leave for a better lifestyle elsewhere" - Most of them came back when they saw that it wasn't paved with gold. You see the sorts of idiots who always think the grass is greener will always find that it isn't because they are fundementally parasites that want to avoid effort.

Doctors who are trained in this country should be made to pay back their entire fees if they wish to up stumps and go elsewhere.

It's odd that we were told that, prior to Brexit, the NHS was being held together by trained nurses from the EU. Nothing to stop them staying post Brexit. They just needed a visa.How come they came here to nurse in the first place if the pay is that terrible here. It doesn't say much for pay and conditions in the rest of Europe. 

It's odd that we were told that, prior to Brexit, the NHS was being held together by trained nurses from the EU.

What I find odd, retro, is that during the Brexit debate (and in any discussion since) Remainers were quick to suggest how heavily dependent the UK was on medical staff from the EU working here and how the NHS has suffered since (though, as you say, there was absolutely nothing to stop them staying here). But now we have many of those same people moaning because our home-trained medical staff are leaving  for pastures new. So they don't mind the UK plundering the trained staff from other countries - whether EU or not - to work here (something that I have always roundly condemned). But then they equally criticise or try to control the exodus of UK trained medical staff from seeking employment elsewhere. 

My Brother-in-law and his wife visited us from Australia a couple of weeks ago.

They informed us that Nurses and Doctors down under have been striking, also.....

 

we are stronger  than a good few, it was always going to take time.

This sounds a bit like Dombey's father about er his son ( Dickens Dombey and Son) and his TB. The son dies, of course, [and Florence the daughter gets a helluva time instead, but I ramble].

we have a stronger economy than a good few of the EU countries, 

after brexit we will need it - - hur hur hur

You can criticise, or not, doctors who emigrate. It makes no difference, they'll still emigrate.

What would keep them to stay here, and how can we fill the tens of thousands of vacancies even if they do stay?

Is it by not negotiating? I think not. The Government has its head in the sand.

 

Doctors who are trained in this country should be made to pay back their entire fees

er, excuse me: they paid their fees - the student doctors werent GIVEN the money

Perhaps you mean cost of training - minus the fees they already paid of course.

still - this is AB on a Friday !

 

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