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The four football clubs in the U.K with no place names incorperated?
Hi everyone,a friend mentioned yesterday that back in the 80's there was a quiz question doing the rounds about 'which were the only 4 clubs in England and Scotland which didn't have a place name in the title i.e Leeds,Manchester,Sheffield.
Is this still the case? He was a publican in Liverpool at the time and by the time the quiz got going the last thing he wanted to know was that!! By the way he's very good with his memory so it would be nice to get one up!!
Is this still the case? He was a publican in Liverpool at the time and by the time the quiz got going the last thing he wanted to know was that!! By the way he's very good with his memory so it would be nice to get one up!!
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Again, Tranmere IS a place - a suburb of Birkenhead.
It is an interesting question certainly fduggan. I don't think there's a definitive answer because of the vagueness about what constitues a "place" (is it a town, a townland, a river, a building - especially one like Arsenal or Crystal Palace that doesn't exist any more?) - and the confusion that seems to exist with teams who aren't named after the place where they play but ARE named after a place. Another possible answer at the time might have been Morton, before they became Greenock Morton, who were apparently named after the name of a street.
Duncer, the Chimney Corner Hotel dates from 1871, some forty years before Alexander Irvine's book, so actually I'm not sure what is named after what!
My all-time favourite name for a football team is Hole In The Wall, who used to play in a league in N. Ireland, but I see there's at least one team of that name still going in England (!)
It is an interesting question certainly fduggan. I don't think there's a definitive answer because of the vagueness about what constitues a "place" (is it a town, a townland, a river, a building - especially one like Arsenal or Crystal Palace that doesn't exist any more?) - and the confusion that seems to exist with teams who aren't named after the place where they play but ARE named after a place. Another possible answer at the time might have been Morton, before they became Greenock Morton, who were apparently named after the name of a street.
Duncer, the Chimney Corner Hotel dates from 1871, some forty years before Alexander Irvine's book, so actually I'm not sure what is named after what!
My all-time favourite name for a football team is Hole In The Wall, who used to play in a league in N. Ireland, but I see there's at least one team of that name still going in England (!)
I think the "Not named after where we're from" League in Norn Iron is a big, big one! What about Oxford United Stars (Derry/Londonderry) and of course Premier League Donegal Celtic (named after the fact that they play in an area with streets named after places in Donegal).
Wakehurst is in Ballymena, but they play in Castledawson (of course :-)
Wakehurst is in Ballymena, but they play in Castledawson (of course :-)
“There is actually no such place as crystal palace.”
Err… I beg to differ, flitty.
Crystal Palace is a place name. It has a railway station (in fact it used to have two)and a number of buses terminate there. Ask anybody in south-east London where Crystal Palace is and they will point you in the right direction, even though the palace itself burnt down in 1936. Have a look at virtually any map of London and there you will find marked Crystal Palace, sitting neatly about half way between Upper Norwood and Forest Hill. I don’t know what more is needed to qualify somewhere as a “place”.
Incidentally, Norwood does not have a tube station. In fact south of the Thames is very poorly served by the Underground. By my quick reckoning only 30 of the 270 lie south of the river and the nearest of these to Crystal Palace are Brixton on the Victoria Line (about 4 miles away) and Colliers Wood on the Northern Line (about 5 miles).
Err… I beg to differ, flitty.
Crystal Palace is a place name. It has a railway station (in fact it used to have two)and a number of buses terminate there. Ask anybody in south-east London where Crystal Palace is and they will point you in the right direction, even though the palace itself burnt down in 1936. Have a look at virtually any map of London and there you will find marked Crystal Palace, sitting neatly about half way between Upper Norwood and Forest Hill. I don’t know what more is needed to qualify somewhere as a “place”.
Incidentally, Norwood does not have a tube station. In fact south of the Thames is very poorly served by the Underground. By my quick reckoning only 30 of the 270 lie south of the river and the nearest of these to Crystal Palace are Brixton on the Victoria Line (about 4 miles away) and Colliers Wood on the Northern Line (about 5 miles).
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