Shouting at dogs

[Hapus]

All,
I'd like your opinion please. My neighbours bought a puppy a few months ago. The trouble is, although the dog has shelter and food, the owners scream and yell at it constantly - swearing away at the poor thing - I believe he must think his name is stupid f*****g c***. What does the law say about this? My mother caught one of the kids taking a flying kick at it, and she gave him a severe roasting for it. We haven't seen any evidence of this since, but I really feel so sorry for him as he doesn't get much love. Whenever we are in the garden he rushes to the wall for attention and fuss. I don't think that they deserve to have him, and he would be so much happier with a family that appreciates him, but I really don't know what the RSPCA would do?

[B00]

By all means call the RSPCA, but seeing as you said that the dog has adequate shelter, food and water I'm afraid there's little they'll do.

personally I find it horrific that someone would do this to any animal let alone a dog and I'd be really tempted to ummmmm 'steal' the dog and give it to a family who'll appreciate it!

[Hapus]

I know! I am sooooo tempted to do that, but its theft!
I do find it upsetting that he is so unloved.

[B00]

Yep I know it's theft- but if it's done at night and thry don't see you...........


Seriously, I'd do that- i couldn't live with myself with that dog living miserably next door. Dogs are pack animals and if nothing else the poor thing must be incredibly lonely :-(

[Hapus]

Sadly I live in a very small town, the neighbours are VERY scary thugs who would think nothing of stabbing anyone they thought "had done um wrong" and he's a distinctive looking dog that would be recognised unless I got him miles and miles away. God I sound like I'm living in a Lynda Plante novel...

[B00]

lol- understand your dilemma. Not sure what else to suggest here- sorry.

I'd call the RSPCA anyway, but I genuinely don't think they'll do anything/much.

Hopefully someone else will come along with better advise than me.

Good luck :-)

[kita1]

The RSPCA probably will not do much under the present law, might be worth trying them or your local dog warden or even the environmental health (say the dog barks).

Other than that you could try saying to the neighbours that you have a friend who is looking for a dog and if they are 'finding the dog too much to cope with' you could find it a good home, I would flatter them by saying you find the dog a beautiful dog and very much admire it. (Don't lay it on too thick though they might offer to sell you the dog!).

Sadly people like these are all too common, we have a number of them living round here too (I know what you mean - it is like living in a novel!). A teenager was recently 'admiring' my dog (a giant guarding breed) he informed me he had just got a 5 month old Neopolitan Mastiff/Bull Mastiff cross, he looked like a local druggie, I dread to think how the dog is going to turn out!!!

Good luck!

[Hapus]

Kita1 - thanks!
I wouldn't dream of even hinting in the slightest that they might not be able to cope.. I'd end up in a body bag trust me. They are vile vile vile.
I was hoping that the law had changed ... boo.

[CrazyWolfman]

I don't know what knowledge you have of Canine behaviour but, in a similar way to humans, the dog is liable to develop those aggressive behaviours itself. Depending somewhat on the disposition of the dog, should it percieve itself as a beta rank one of it's roles later on in life is to enforce what the pack's alphas (the human members) say and do. Additionally it will learn to enforce those pack rules using the methods which the alphas use on it. In short this is likely to result in the dog being very noisey and violent later in life, it'll probably bite someone for doing one of the things it was itself punished for and will be killed for it. As such all I can recommend is that you do everything you can for it, before it develops into that or a similar situation. Have you considered taking photographic or video footage of the dog being abused? Although the RSPCA are often fairly powerless in this kind of situation it strikes me that evidence of that sort should change the situation sufficiently for appropriate action to be taken.

[twinkle2]

Hello Hapus
I had exactly the same situation, the dog in question had food/water and shelter but was treated horribly (no physical harm as far as I was aware though thank god) anyway, I rang the RSPCA on 3 occassions and they were not in the slightest bit interested, he said they would not be able to do anything unless i had actually see the dog being physically harmed, so basically I said to him ; so we have to wait til AFTER it happens then?? He said yes. Unbelieveable!! This was 18 months ago and he has now sadly passed away 3 weeks ago (he was only 2 years old bless him) Please try and so something before its too late. I would come and get him myself if I could but I cant. Please keep us updated. x

[Hapus]

Its so horrid. We had another dog nearby a few years ago that was just left in a yard. Never loved. But becacuse it had food and shelter the RSPCA would do nothing. We all used to feed and love him. He died a few years ago very young too.
I really don't know what to do - I KNOW the RSPCA will do nothing, and I'm too nervous of retribution being dished out to me AND all my family (as I know they would). I'm not in a position to film them. Mind you, the way the couple were fighting last night and this morning, perhaps they'll kill each other then the dog can be re-homed.... Or the man will overdose on his heroin. I can hope.

[ruthann58]

what about telling them you think hes really lovely and would love one like him and if they ever felt they needed to part with him you would love to have him also the offer of paying for him would probably persuade them good luck

[bizzylizzy]

Oh my, poor you. I couldn't bear to live next door to people like that. Maybe you should have a word with your local animal rights group. You might not be in a position to do anything, but I'm pretty sure they would. You're right about the RSPCA. They have oodles of money but despite their ads, they don't seem to be able to do much. Poor little puppy. I have a beloved 12 year old dog, who is spoilt rotten. I can't stand the way some people treat their animals, may they rot in hell. Lots of luck to you. At least you care about the poor little thing, and that's a good start.

[horselady]

Hapus
Have a look at your Council website for the dog warden information. Some of them do home visits and look into welfare issues. They would treat your call as confidential.

[CrazyWolfman]

If I were you I'd be very reluctant to pay any money for the dog. In businesses like fur farming, people who actually buy the foxes out of kindness are inadvertantly supporting the business as the money immediately goes towards paying for another. Thus two animals are unneccesarily mistreated for the price of one. In this case I'd want to be very certain that the current owner had no intention of buying another dog before handing over the means to obtain it. (With luck he'll spend it on drugs or something, that way he gets what's coming to him and has nothing left for more puppies).