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bednobs | 12:37 Tue 30th Apr 2024 | News
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Life isn't a paltry prison sentence.

It is when you don't serve life. How many lifers do you know who murdered and were incarcerated in the Maze prison and are still there. Compared with what elderly people suffer with food and heating bills a small prison sentence for taking a life is a doddle. An eye for an eye unless you have any thoughts how to stem young thugs killing with impunity. Tell me. What's your remedy?

death penalty doesn't do much to stop this sort of thing in the USA or china or russia or anywhere i can think of. you might perhaps like the death penalty because you enjoy seeing convicted murderers die but that is another argument. it doesn't work as a deterrent. 
 

there is no "remedy" for murder. 

Nonsense

There's no easy answer to knife crime.  These two actions might reduce it a bit.

The first, education.  Young students should be taught the enormity of the crime and its consequences.  Years in prison isn't a doddle, as some may think.  It's living in a permanent stench of sewers and boiled cabbage, with the threat of violence ever present.

The second part of the approach would be mandatory prison sentences for carrying a knife without good cause.

That wouldn't cure the problem but might reduce it.

I've never thought the death penalty is a deterrent - but it guarantees the convicted won't reoffend.   Without some people society is a better place.

Well, educating  them about knives doesn't seem to be working. Stop and search didn't work. Life sentences don't seem to be a deterrent. The only true life sentences are the ones that the victims families have to suffer. Get rid of the vermin. Whether it acts as a deterrent or not at least the sadistic murderers won't be able to do it again . 

 

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retrocop - // Apparently he wasn't a maniac according to AH. eh? //

I said nothing of the kind.

My post confirmed that there was no need for those who gleefully spent a lot of time on a previous thread being completely wrong about the motives and ethnicity of a suspect.

But since you were one of them, I appreciate you not making sense of my post.

However, I don't appreciate you making something up about something I didn't say, simply so you can exercise your petty and vindictive personal dislike of me.

Try reading what is said, and diagree by all means, but don't make stuff up to have a go, it's not good debating.

the trouble with the death penalty is that sometimes innocent people get convicted... the USA has executed almost 1600 people since 1976 and about 200 of those were later confirmed to have been innocent... the real number may be higher still. that cannot be acceptable can it?

The death penalty costs the USA much more than life imprisonment.  

On average the death penalty costs $1.26m and life imprisonment $740,000 

 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/76th2011/ExhibitDocument/OpenExhibitDocument

Additionally, some victims or their families don't want the death penalty for many varied reasons.

Studies have shown that juries are less likely to find the accused guilty of murder if there is a death sentence, opting instead for manslaughter and imprisonment.

we could send them to Rwanda

For a convicted murderer I would give the jury a vote by simple majority on what sentence to give - life with a minimum term, life with no release, execution.

I think they would do a better job than judges.

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