Is Farage Frit?

[sandyRoe]

There is a tide in the affairs of men. Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune.

Should Farage throw his hat into the ring and run for a seat in parliament?

He'll never have a better chance.

What say you?

[Hymie]

Once Labour forms the next government, I’m looking forward to them conducting a formal impact assessment of Brexit; the conclusion of which will undoubtedly be that it has been an absolute disaster for the UK (economically, politically, socially etc).

[naomi24]

That'll be a high price to pay for a report, Hymie, especially one that is likely to be severely slanted.

[Untitled]

if i were keir starmer i would want to leave brexit well alone.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

"I have repeatedly said that there's no case for going back into the EU and that includes the single market and the customs union." 

-Sir Keir Starmer.

[Hymie]

Why would you think any impact assessment of Brexit would be severely slanted?

With all the impacts of Brexit (on the UK) clearly explained in any such report, why would anyone doubt its findings?

[naomi24]

I would doubt the result of any report commissioned by the Labour Party.  

[Togo]

Starmer is apparently making urgent plans that are much more parochial.
"A report from the climate-obsessed National Infrastructure Commission (NIC) has warned that so-called smart water meters must be installed to regulate use and reduce demand.
In the light of these problems and the escalating climate crisis, the incoming Labour government is to put water and sewage high on its list of priorities, second only to deciding what constitutes a ‘woman’. 
Proposed actions include the establishment of five new Ministries: for Rain, Drought, Wind, Drizzle and Sewage. Sir Keir Starmer believes the issues to be so important that he plans to appoint his best brains to lead the new Ministries. Ed Miliband will supervise Rain, David Lammy will be the mastermind for Drought, Lisa Nandy will control Wind, Nadia Whittome will sprinkle her wisdom on Drizzle and Angela Rayner will be the face of Sewage."

[Togo]

Furthermore ...

"Each Ministry will be staffed by thousands of diverse and inclusive civil servants most of whom will work from home. They will be tasked with reporting daily on the climate crisis and the impact it is having on their use of tap water and bowel habits. 
Labour also plans to set up a Sewage and Water Enforcement Agency headed by a Water and Sewage Czar, who will have sweeping powers to intervene to ensure that the various crises are dealt with in a robust manner.
Thousands of Water Marshals are to be appointed to work for the new Agency. These armed officials will have authority to enter properties, rip out baths and confiscate garden hoses and watering cans. They will monitor sheep farmers in the Lake District and elsewhere to ensure that every animal is fitted with a nappy. They will also ensure that every property installs smart poo meters to check the size, shape and regularity of faeces to ensure that the sewerage system is not put under excessive pressure in times of heavy rainfall." Haha
John Ellwood. 

[ichkeria]

As long as there's a chance previous  Labour voters who voted for Brexit are still potentially protective of their decision there's not a chance of Labour touching the issue with a bargepole 

[Gromit]

He will never catch Sceaming Lord Sutch's record for the most lost election contests.

He easily replaced all that EU money he was taking and has an hefty EU pension, so why bother?

[New Judge]

"...the conclusion of which will undoubtedly be that it has been an absolute disaster for the UK (economically, politically, socially etc)."

We've discussed the econimic impact of Brexit and opinions vary. But what political and social disasters has Brexit visited on the UK?

[youngmafbog]

Well it's lost the incumbent Government of an excuse to give the gullible public.  They can no longer blame the EU!

As for social, who knows what Mr sourgrapes is banging on about.  Phil might know.

[Hymie]

But what political and social disasters has Brexit visited on the UK?

 

Many commentators have said that the UK standing in the world has been significantly diminished as a result of no longer being EU members – we have no say in the rules governing such a large economic/trading bloc (rules that we are now forced to obey if we want to trade with them).  Within the EU, the UK had considerable influence on EU policy/law/rules, being one of the larger member countries and a net contributor to their coffers.

Now we are just a small fish in a big world, with the EU is negotiating far better trade deals than us due to trade volumes.

 

The main social disaster is the loss of free movement, with the right to live and work in any EU member State.  Travel to/from the EU (which was frictionless) is now a pain in the *** and is set to become even more painful in the near future.

[New Judge]

"Well it's lost the incumbent Government of an excuse to give the gullible public.  They can no longer blame the EU!"

I consider that a positive advantage, youngmaf! One of the very many reasons I voted to leave.

[New Judge]

“Many commentators have said that the UK standing in the world has been significantly diminished as a result of no longer being EU members”

“Many commentators” who are supporters of the EU. Commentators who are not will know that the UK is still a major influence in gobal politics and finance. It is the EU that has been diminished by losing the UK as one of its members.

“ – we have no say in the rules governing such a large economic/trading bloc (rules that we are now forced to obey if we want to trade with them). Within the EU, the UK had considerable influence on EU policy/law/rules, being one of the larger member countries and a net contributor to their coffers.”

You delude yourself. The UK (along with all the other EU members bar one or two) has never had any (let alone “considerable”) influence in EU affairs.

All countries have to abide by the trading standards of nations they wish to trade with.

“The main social disaster is the loss of free movement, with the right to live and work in any EU member State.”

Unfortunately that’s the price that had to be paid to end the preposterous situation where 450m people had the right to live and work in the UK. A ludicrous situation which no normal country would tolerate.

“Travel to/from the EU (which was frictionless) is now a pain in the *** and is set to become even more painful in the near future.”

Travel between the UK and other EU countries (bar Ireland) was never frictionless. Since, thankfully, the UK did not participate in the ridiculous Schengen scheme, it was always necessary to undergo border formalities. Far from now being a pain in the ***, they are no different to how they were pre-Brexit except that you get your passport stamped. That will end if and when the EU gets its Schengen entry/exit scheme along with ETIAS going.

These “social disasters” are all part of the UK reverting to a normal country and UK citizens will simply have to get used to complying with the normal customs and niceties with which more than 90% of the world’s population in the other normal countries have to.