Shakespeare Removed By Starmer

[Khandro]

The Bard of Stratford upon Avon wrote during the reign of Elizabeth 1, she in turn was queen during a time when there was slavery, therefore ................ he has to go ! 

https://archive.ph/JwSjE

Philistinism, wokism or both ? 

[perseverer]

I would have more sympathy with the idea of Britain having the leading role in bringing about an end to slavery if the compensation at the time had been paid to the slaves, not the owners.

[1ozzy]

//Hopefully one day this country will again take pride in its past.//

Does that include pillaging the wealth from the indigenous owners of said countries, displacing them from their land, incarceration, because they didn't want to be invaded, introducing Christianity that wasn't required.

So many questions, so few acceptable answers. 🤔

[ynnafymmi]

"What have the Romans ever done for us",eh,ozzy?

[ToraToraTora]

04:09 well they are literally dying to get here now skippy so we must have done something right.

[gramps85]

The question was asked 'had Starmer ever seen a Shakespeare play'.  Perhaps the answer is no, as he he is still waiting for his free ticket.

[10ClarionSt]

Haven't people got anything better to do than get stoked up about a paintings' location?

[vulcan42]

Haven't people got anything better to do than get stoked up about a paintings' location?

No more stoked up than you getting stoked up about other people getting stoked up.

[10ClarionSt]

Stoked up! Woked up! Folked up! 😄

[New Judge]

"Does that include pillaging the wealth from the indigenous owners of said countries, displacing them from their land, incarceration, because they didn't want to be invaded, introducing Christianity that wasn't required."

Possibly not. But on balance I would say that Britain's occupation of most of the colonies produced far more benefits than drawbacks.

Furthermore, it is not useful to judge what happened in the past by today's standards. Britain was not the only nation to indulge in the slave trade  (and nor was it, for that matter, the only nation to indulge in colonialism) but it seems to be the only nation that is beating itself up so fiercely over it.

But the most important thing is that it ended 200 years ago. Times change.

[davebro3]

I think one might ask the slaves' descendants living in the USA and the Caribbean if they would like to return to the land of their fathers...

[Khandro]

The Donald said to a whining black person, 'The bringing of your ancestors to America was the best thing that could have happened to you; otherwise you'd be now living in some s-hole in Africa ! '

[ynnafymmi]

Wasnt there a"return to our roots"movement at one time asking for all the Afro-Americans,Afro-British if they would like to go back to their paradise African homelands.I dont think any applied.I wonder why?

[Atheist]

How did we get from Shakespeare to making rude comments about Africa?

[ynnafymmi]

What rude comments about Africa Atheist?

[Atheist]

See Khandro at 12:53.

 

[naomi24]

I'd say that's factual, atheist.  I've been to many and there's none I'd want to set up home in.

[ynnafymmi]

I think at one time there was a fund sent up to repatriate those Africans in Britain not happy about the dole money,free NHS,free schools,etc to send these unhappy Africans back to Africa.Not a lot applied from what im aware.

[Atheist]

Naomi; Nice to see you being open about your sympathies.

[Atheist]

However, what's all that to do with Shakespeare's portrait?

[naomi24]

What do you want me to be sympathetic about, atheist?