X factor and Pop idol.

[funkymoped]

have any of these crap shows NOT produced a No1 single ???

how many No1s have the British shows produced ??

i cant believe how people are drawn in... the girl that won X factor... i was told she had an amazing voice !!!

im not impressed, but i didnt follow her progress over the last series of X.....

in fact, ive never watched ANY of the music maker programs.
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[Potatoman]

I dont know why, but what really gets me is that you know for a fact that every time they show a new series what the Christmas Number One is going to be. Bring back Mr Blobby. He's not half as bad as some of the rubbish that these programs kick out.
Dont know why, but it bugs me...

[Mumof2]

All the previous winners have become forgotten has beens..just in time for the next series to start
bargain bin albums the majority of them

[Mattk]

It is a shame how that idiot cowell has been allowed to murder pop culture and ruin what always used to be an interesting race for the coveted xmas no.1 spot.

When i was a teen,I was always into chart music so have often asked myself would i be in to chart music if i was a teen today...and the answer i am inevitably drawn to is......no ! Its all manufactured drivel with no character or substance.most of the bands are just anonymous...at least chart bands back in the 80's had people with personalities in them with members that people knew.i couldnt tell you the name of one member of westlife and theyve almost got more no.1's than the beatles !!! That says it all really.

[domidoodles]

Wwwhhhaaaaat H H H appennnnnned to GGGGarrettth GGGGGGGGGGGaaaaaatessss ?

[johnny37]

The standard of X-Factor final dozen was dire. I cannot undertstand how that was all they could come up with from 70000 auditions. Simon' has made a fortune and good luck to him I suppose. Leona's record is OK but I wasn't impressed by her at all on the show. I ended up only dipping in now and again to remind me how mediocre it all was, and Celebrity Come Dancing on BBC became compulsory viewing.

[almusic10]

domidoodles, gareth gates is making a come back in 2007 with a new album

[andy-hughes]

Pop music, along with popular entertaintment, evloves constantly.

All that happens now is that we see the auditions that most bands go through - albeit on an individual scale - to find members - that's the way it has always been.

By definition, it would be amazing if the winner's record was NOT a Number One - the nation feels they know the individual or group personally - they have been in their living rooms for the last three months. The trick is, can they make any more hits when that advantage is removed. Exceptions such as Girls Aloud and Sugarbabes do happen along, but that is due to good management and marketing, as well as cleve song sellection - as much as anything else.

These shows have a place in modern entertainment - if you don't enjoy the artists and songs, don;t listen to them, but to say that the shows are 'crap' is patently unfounded. They are slickly produced and edited, and judged by individuals who have made eight-figure fortunes by knowing what they are talking about. You may not enjoy what the shows produce, but it's really only entertainment on a Saturday night.

Why not go out and discover a new band? Much more fun!

[johnny37]

If the panel are such experts how come acts like the Macdonald Brothers (gawd bless 'em) get to appear on prime time telly week after week, with repeats on digital channels. Ditto Ray who could not even sing You'll Never Walk Alone in tune but had the panel crying with emotion. There must be hundreds of blokes out there with half decent voices who never get this opportunity. The previous series was just as bad.