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Immigrants please explain
It took me 25 years of hard work to pay for my house and in the last few months there are africans and pakistanis living in my road that have paid nothing for their �200,000 houses, they got them as a free gift as well as lifelong welfare payments and free healthcare to which they have contributed sweet **** all
So please explain to me why is my 50 years of pension money being spent on these people?
So please explain to me why is my 50 years of pension money being spent on these people?
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was it not proven in a court of law that the suicide bombers of 7/7 and the failed suicide bombers were living off state benefits?i think you will find that the answer is YES.i have not tarred ALL asylum seekers with the same brush,but its a harsh reality that ANY asylum seekers COULD turn into killers.the worrying thing is that the 7/7 bombers were home grown terrorists and not asylum seekers,but how many of their friends from the mosque in which they were radicalised ARE asylum seekers or illegals,just waiting and planning to cause another bombing campaign?
i have not tarred ALL asylum seekers with the same brush,but its a harsh reality that ANY asylum seekers COULD turn into killers
Do you realise how weak that argument is?
What you're saying is that none of the asylum seekers who have come to this country have turned out to he suicide bombers but they might turn out to be.
Can you see the problem with that argument?
And so what if the 7/7 bombers were on benefits?
The bigger issue is that they were suicide bombers.
And weren't they all British anyway? What are you saying? You can only claim benefits if you're white?
Do you realise how weak that argument is?
What you're saying is that none of the asylum seekers who have come to this country have turned out to he suicide bombers but they might turn out to be.
Can you see the problem with that argument?
And so what if the 7/7 bombers were on benefits?
The bigger issue is that they were suicide bombers.
And weren't they all British anyway? What are you saying? You can only claim benefits if you're white?
HAVE I SAID THAT?i would thank you not to twist my words.i MIGHT win the lottery,i MIGHT win the pools,you MIGHT win a car,an asylum seeker MIGHT be a brilliant medical student,have a job in the nhs and then get arrested and charged with conspiicy to cause an explosion.do you understand what im saying?and so what if the 7/7 bombers were on benefits?you ask because that they were and then they go out and kill and maim innocent civilians is an insult to the victims and to the law abiding people of this country that why...................
Whickerman.........when exactly was Pakistan under British rule? I must have missed that part in my empire studies.
Lovejoy, you are quite right. It is because we are a soft touch, simple as that. Ruled by neo-Liberalists who haven't got a clue what Britain should be like (i.e like it once was when we were Great)
I have a similar story.
I have a New Zealand Maori friend whose family were and still are to an extent under British rule. He fought in the British Army, is non-religious, speaks English as his mother tongue, adheres to British culture, has an English Law degree and is married to an English woman.
Can he get British citizenship????
No he has to apply for some visa every 4 years at a cost of 4 grand or something.
Why??? Because he has dignity and doesn't kick up a stink. Muslims, on the other hand, cry "RACISM, RACISM" at the first available point and the Marxists in power let them in and stay for good.
Why a government lets terrorists in is beyond belief. If an truly independant Alien was looking at our immigration law, they would laught their little green ears off.
Lovejoy, you are quite right. It is because we are a soft touch, simple as that. Ruled by neo-Liberalists who haven't got a clue what Britain should be like (i.e like it once was when we were Great)
I have a similar story.
I have a New Zealand Maori friend whose family were and still are to an extent under British rule. He fought in the British Army, is non-religious, speaks English as his mother tongue, adheres to British culture, has an English Law degree and is married to an English woman.
Can he get British citizenship????
No he has to apply for some visa every 4 years at a cost of 4 grand or something.
Why??? Because he has dignity and doesn't kick up a stink. Muslims, on the other hand, cry "RACISM, RACISM" at the first available point and the Marxists in power let them in and stay for good.
Why a government lets terrorists in is beyond belief. If an truly independant Alien was looking at our immigration law, they would laught their little green ears off.
stokemaveric
You said exactly that. You said that an asylum seeker could become a suicide bomber.
Why did you even write that?
The 7/7 bombers were Brits. They were not asylum seekers. To mention suicide bombers and asylum seekers in the same breath is just plain nasty.
Why on earth would you write "its a harsh reality that ANY asylum seekers COULD turn into killers" unless you thought there was a greater likelihood that because you're an asylum seeker, you're more likely to have murderous intentions?
And what do you mean, "it's a harsh reality"?
Based on what?
Show me figures which demonstrate a higher than normal murder rate amongst asylum seekers and I might be swayed to your argument.
You said exactly that. You said that an asylum seeker could become a suicide bomber.
Why did you even write that?
The 7/7 bombers were Brits. They were not asylum seekers. To mention suicide bombers and asylum seekers in the same breath is just plain nasty.
Why on earth would you write "its a harsh reality that ANY asylum seekers COULD turn into killers" unless you thought there was a greater likelihood that because you're an asylum seeker, you're more likely to have murderous intentions?
And what do you mean, "it's a harsh reality"?
Based on what?
Show me figures which demonstrate a higher than normal murder rate amongst asylum seekers and I might be swayed to your argument.
i'm glad jno raised point about pensions - when the state pension system was set up it was designed with a much lower life expectancy in mind and with much larger family sizes, the result of a reduced birth rate and to a greater extent the vastly increased life expectancy of pensioners means that the uk pension system is in a crisis and actively requires immigration to the country in order to keep the system running... so in summery without immigrants moving into your country contributing to the taxes you wouldn't even have a pension when you reach retirement age
>The UK pension sysem is in crisis and needs immigration to keep it going.
What about when the current immigrants get old and need a pension?
Do we have MORE imigration to pay for the pensions of the immigrants who paid our pension.
This policy is rather like pyramid selling, where eventually you need sign up the population of the world to make it work.
This is a poorly thought out solution that will have terrible long term consequences for this country.
As more immigrants arrive, so more "whites" leave to live in Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria or wherever.
So we need more immigrants to replace the "whites" who leave.
But because more immigrants arrive more white leave and so it goes on.
In 100 years time you will have a country that is made up of a massive number of immigrants and their decendents and a few old "white" people who cannot afford to move abroad.
What about when the current immigrants get old and need a pension?
Do we have MORE imigration to pay for the pensions of the immigrants who paid our pension.
This policy is rather like pyramid selling, where eventually you need sign up the population of the world to make it work.
This is a poorly thought out solution that will have terrible long term consequences for this country.
As more immigrants arrive, so more "whites" leave to live in Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria or wherever.
So we need more immigrants to replace the "whites" who leave.
But because more immigrants arrive more white leave and so it goes on.
In 100 years time you will have a country that is made up of a massive number of immigrants and their decendents and a few old "white" people who cannot afford to move abroad.
Lovejoy, a couple of questions.
1) How do you know what rent or mortgage is or isn't being paid by the people who have moved into your street?
2) Have you spoken to any of these people?
3) How do you know that they have not or are not contributing to the welfare state?
4) Are you really just a teensy bit racist and annoyed because some people with brown skin live near you?
Be honest!
1) How do you know what rent or mortgage is or isn't being paid by the people who have moved into your street?
2) Have you spoken to any of these people?
3) How do you know that they have not or are not contributing to the welfare state?
4) Are you really just a teensy bit racist and annoyed because some people with brown skin live near you?
Be honest!
Nonetheless, that's how it is, VHG. The pension system was set up at a time when you lived about five years after retirement and had four kids contributing to your pension fund. Now people live 20 years after retirement and only have one child. Have you got an alternative solution that wouldn't involve everyone's pensions being cut to about a tenth of what they were expecting? Unless you have, voluntary immigration seems like the ideal answer.
btw, Brits have been emigrating (eg to America for 400 years) for longer than immigrants have been coming to Britain in any numbers, which is mostly a postwar phenomenon. So it's presumably not because they can't stand immigrants, it's because they can't stand other Brits. I have no idea why this should be, of course.
btw, Brits have been emigrating (eg to America for 400 years) for longer than immigrants have been coming to Britain in any numbers, which is mostly a postwar phenomenon. So it's presumably not because they can't stand immigrants, it's because they can't stand other Brits. I have no idea why this should be, of course.
Incidentally, what response would be appropriate if you were living in a country that suddenly started recieving lots of white immigrants who had voluntarily left their own country principally because they didn't like the fact that the people paying for their pensions were of a different ethnicity?
I wasn't sure whether they should be told to 'go home' or not? Does anyone have any great personal insight into what should be done when enountering such a phenomenon?
I wasn't sure whether they should be told to 'go home' or not? Does anyone have any great personal insight into what should be done when enountering such a phenomenon?
