immigration

[The Sherman]

One argument to rule them all.



this is it. this is the only thread you ever need to read on immigration. There is no argument to this - no rebuttle no even slightly confusing stance on this. I know your allowed to post back but there's no point because this is infallible!!!!

We need immigrants to sustain our economy thats it end of argument!

Our ageing population (which has forced our retirement age to increase to 67) is going to be the biggest burden on our economy in the next 50 years. Unless there is a massive baby boom (Of which there is no evidence to support there will be) we will need immigrants to keep our economy afloat.

[brionon]

I agree BUT let us pick and choose. Why refuse a young footballer and keep criminals ? Daft ? Let US decide who we want.

[ludwig]

I understand, but - and this is a serious question - what happens when the immigrants retire?

[jake-the-peg]

It is a serious question Ludwig.

We need to manage a stable age range throughout our population without "baby booms" or famines.

We also need to encourage the sort of immigration with people coming and settling with their families. Economic migrants comming over for a few years and sending all their money home does us no good at all.

[The Sherman]

i'm glad you all agree, and while i was being slightly silly saying there are no issues mainly they are better for this country.

when highlighting the case of the footballer remember thats one case that the papers WANT you to hear about.. There could be loads of people that come over this coutnry on the promise of work and then get here to find they arent required anymore. OR they could have been here 6 months and then get laid off by work and then suddenly the papers are all "migrant steals our benefits!!!!" there is always a lot more to these stories than the papers want you to believe, in my little opinion!

[helpmetoo]

we need quality, not quantity

nothing wrong with entry tests,

health, IQ, criminal record particularly

no evidence, no entry

whats wrong with that?

come on lefties and pc brigade, have a grizzle!

[helpmetoo]

oh, nearly forgot,

wouldnt let any french person in

[jake-the-peg]

Nothing wrong with that (apart from IQ tests) although we have to remember that there is a European element.

With free movement of people in Europe there can and should be no permanent bars to Europeans within Europe but we should aim to balance our population within that and actively seek to attract the best from outside the EU to come and make up the balance to a modest growth.

This is pretty much the state of affairs now

[jake-the-peg]

Oh and before you scoff at the last sentence current figures are 65 million in 2016 (0.7% increase per year)

I think that includes the French

[The Sherman]

well i am a leftie and i completely disagree with that statement!

if you look at this country there is now a big influx of young to the cities which has had a negative effect on our countryside. W
hat we need is farm workers and i dont see the need for them to be in mensa to do those kind of jobs!

Couple with the fact that half of this country would be disgraced by an IQ test i dont see that as relevant at all.

Criminal records are tricky as once the time has been served then they should be seen as free and have equal rights as in this country so whilst it is relevant its not black and white!

[tiggerblue10]

How about we try and sort out our Asylum seeker problem which is putting a strain on the economy. A few years ago I read about an Asylum seeker who wasn't allowed to work but the council paid over a �1000 per month to house her.

[Skreecheeboy]

I know lots of assylum seekers that have been waiting up to 6 years in some cases for a decision.
They are expected to survive on bridging allowance, which is less than job seekers allowance and they're not allowed to study beyond HND level. The home office needs to hire more people to get rid of the back log of assylum requests so that they can either be put in work or deported but for some reason they aren't capable of doing that and the assylum seekers remain in poverty while costing the country money. I'd happily let them all stay if it were up to me, subject to finding work.

[Theland]

Where are our kids suposed to live whilst the immigrants come flooding in? There's not enough houses.

[The Sherman]

kids dont need new houses until they're 18 theres plenty of houses just now to rent just not to buy. and it wont matter anyway what im talking about is an absolute collapse of our economy and your wrroying about new houses? There wont be any money to build them!

[amsterdammer]

Lets build a road bridge across the English Channel & open up the country to all who wish to come, be it by land sea or air. We have always welcomed immigrants to this Democratic land of ours.We would bring down the unemployment figures by pressing the needlessly unemployed into forced labour.

[jojojoanne]

http://www.compas.ox.ac.uk/publications/papers /2006-11-29-Duvell-Stockholm.pdf

[gonzo00]

what about health screening for all immigrants? most eastern european countries have no healthcare system. since the opening of the boarders we have seen the reappearance of many serious desiases in the uk. theres no doubt that we need an immigrant workforce but we do not need any extra load on our already overstreched national haelth service.

[gonzo00]

sorry about the above spelling....my keyboard is in finnish!