history ?

[egordon]

which hampshire public house is named after a lady who was ordered by a notorious judge of the day to be burned alive for sheltering a dissident of the church although, in fact, because of her advanced age, she eventually merely beheaded as an act of clemency.

[Hippy]

The Eclipse, Winchester, Hampshire, is said to be haunted by the grey shade of Dame Alice Lisle, who emerged from the top window onto the scaffold in 1685.

 

Poor Dame Alice was condemned by Judge Jeffries after unwittingly providing shelter to two renegades from the Duke of Monmouth's failed army at her Moyles Court home. The Judge wanted to burn her alive, but, after an uproar in Hampshire, generously allowed her to be beheaded instead. Aged 71 and barely aware of her predicament, Dame Alice meekly submitted to the axe. A plaque in her memory lies opposite the inn.

 

[Cetti]

The Alice Lisle public house is in the New Forest, as she lived at nearby Mockbeggar.

Her very courageous story is as Hippy has said and can be read  in this link:

 

http://www.ibsleystores.co.uk/alicelisle.htm

 

[Peter Pedant]

I wanna speak out for poor old Judge Jeffries. He used to get extremely bad tempered after meals. This may have been due to his kidneys being washed out by the fluid intake during the meal and causing pain. (Dietl's crisis).

He also used to taunt the accused during the bloody assize however it is possible that he was pioneering cross examination of the rebels because a finding of guilt was so lethal.

Dame Alice Lisle was clearing guilty under the law then - she did not have to know that she was aiding rebels. Doing it was enough. Poor Dr Mudd who set James Wilkes Booth;s ankle ws also caught under this strict rule.

In 1915 you will all recall that Edith Cavell was shot by the Germans (patriotism is not enough, I must have no hatred or bitterness for any man...). This was bad karma as we now say, The German propaganda machine was keen to say - Oh well the English did this sort of thing,,,,,and lighted on the example of......Alice Lisle.

[egordon]

many thanks. eve gordon

[egordon]

thank you, eve gordon

[egordon]

most interesting,many thanks,eve gordon