Punidhed!

[icemaiden]

I would really like some opinions on this please.

My seven -half year old daughter came home today saying that she was punished in her R.E class because when they played some Indian (Pakistan) music it made her giggle.

She just thought it was strange sounding music, but the teacher sat her down and told her to write a letter of apology to the Muslims in the class.

I am absolutely livid to say the least and really would appreciate some feedback on what I should do.

thanks in advance

[Quinlad]

Oh, go on then.

[beso]

The teacher is an idiot. Next thing we won't be allowed to eat or drink during Ramadam in case it insults Muslims.

I'd point out that the RE should include lessons in atheism and respect the beliefs of those who think all religion is stupid. People should be able to express that that think something is funny.

[DrFilth]

102, and still rising
Aprilis. one simply question is the teacher that i mentioned getting over �30,000 a year a liar or not ?
after all the mail is full of lies so the teachers may be full of lies ?

[beso]

I don't see what is wrong with laughing at a religious call. Religion is stupid and irrational and does not deserve our respect.

Many Muslims think it is quite fine to even kill those who do not believe in their god. The moderates of both Mohammedism and Christianity don't have respect for the beliefs of athiests and regularly insult us. The Jews have no respect for anyone including themselves.

The religious hide behind quoting their hideous books. Recently outside a Christian chuch a sign read "Only a fool would deny the existence of God". Is this not an insult? Should not they also apologise?

[Aprilis]

DrFilth, with regard to your question, it is entirely possible that a teacher would be earning 30k a year. What they get paid is dependant on experience, qualifications, position, responsibilities etc. I am not au fait with teacher's pay scales as I'm not teaching staff, I'm a Science Technician, but I do know of teachers earning that kind of figure.

[DrFilth]

Aprilis she teaches young children around the age of 7

[Aprilis]

DrFilth, I work in a secondary school and sixth form centre so I don't really know how a junior school teacher's pay would compare. I still think it is possible though.

For instance, my child's junior/infant school only has 4 classes, so her teacher is teaching both yr5 and yr6 in the same class (it's a very small school). What with lesson planning not being quite as simple as teaching one year only and having to get one year through their SATS while also teaching the year below, I don't know if that would make a difference to her salary. As it is such a small school there are few support staff too so I imagine that would bring respsonsibilities that a teacher in a larger school might not have. Inner city pay scales may well be higher than more suburban or rural areas too so it's really hard to say for sure.

[icemaiden]

Quote "Next thing we won't be allowed to eat or drink during Ramadam in case it insults Muslims." unquote

Wow Beso... I hope it doesn't come to that. But it does seem to be edging that way. More so with Muslim religion than any other. They seem to be extra sensitive. Wonder why that is?

[DrFilth]

if that teacher is telling the truth maybe, just maybe the daily mail might print some truth ?

[Quinlad]

Ah, so it is a Muslim issue, icemaiden. I knew it.

Thanks!

[DrFilth]

comrade Quinlad have another read it is beso that mentioned the muslin festival. icemaiden says I hope it doesn't come to that

[icemaiden]

Thank you Dr filth for correcting Quinlad.

Oh dear Quinlad....I was merely replying to Besos comments on not eating during Ramadam.

[beso]

It almost invaribly involves the Moslems because everyone is shut scared of upsetting them. Say the wrong thing and they want to kill you.

Make an image of their prophet (even though nobody knows what he really looked like) and they try to destroy anything to do with the country you live in.

This will probably be enough to bring a jihad on me:

Mohammed > ( :-( )

Both the major Arab doctrines (Judaism and its more popular decendantt Mohammedism) are obsessed with killing and total compliance by all.

Violence and murder also lies just below the surface of the other Judaist derivitave, Christianity. Unfortunately the First Commandment, common to all the Abrahamic doctrines, "Thou shalt worship none but Me" is taken as "Thou shalt worship me."

[Robb Phoenix]

What Crap!!!
Wonder what Music has got to do with Muslims.

As far as I know strict Muslims ban it except on special occasions like Eid and marriage:
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=e ng
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ music.html
http://www.geocities.com/kkhaan/musicharam.htm l

Perhaps it was a prayer?

[DrFilth]

check post 55 ish
Teacher tells class that they will now listen to music and prayer from Muslim religion.

[DrFilth]

i don't like the number 113 so this makes it 114

[beso]

Only some extremist Muslims are against music. They don't like it because music puts people in touch with real spirit and that might inspire them more than the hogwash spouted in the Koran.

[Robb Phoenix]

Anyway my point is
RELIGION IS DIFFERENT FROM CULTURE.
Either the kid is lying or the teacher is daft.

[Robb Phoenix]

How dare you laugh at the symphony.
Now apologize to all the Christians.