are jesus and god the same person?

[singingkaz]

Are jesus and god the same person?

[naomi24]

Ethel, of course Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians. They do see things differently to the mainstream churches, but they are Christians, nonetheless.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/witnes ses/ataglance/glance.shtml

[jake-the-peg]

Technicolour? Black and white?

See what I mean about it all getting very mystical?

'Fraid you won't get any clear simple answers on this one

[Panic Button]

It'sall bunkum

[chakka35]

Look, it�s perfectly simple. I don�t know why you�re all confused. Now follow this carefully:

God decides to come to earth in the form of a chap called Jesus. He reckons it would be a good idea if Jesus (i.e. himself) were to be crucified as part of a deal with God (i.e. himself) to atone for the sins of mankind. OK so far?

So he fixes his crucifixion, yelling out to God (i.e himself) when it gets a bit painful.
Now there have got to be a few perks in being God and one of them is that you don�t have to suffer on the cross for two or three days like those thousands of ordinary people crucified by the Romans. So you let yourself die after only a few hours before the real torture has started.

Satisfied with the deal he has made with God (i.e himself) he has himself resurrected so as to say goodbye to his mates before going back home to heaven.

Meanwhile rational human beings look on in astonishment, thankful that they do not move in such mysterious ways.

All clear now?

[naomi24]

Odd, isn't it. In the quest to make Jesus into something he wasn't, Christians have turned him into a schizophrenic. Poor old Jesus. He's dead and gone, so he can't even defend himself against it. I have to feel sorry for him.

[keyplus90]

Jesus (pbuh) will, one day come and defend himself. I have no doubt about that. The only difference is that he would not be defending himself and those Christians who painted him as God or Son of God. But instead he would be telling them what I am telling you know;

He was only a messenger and prophet of God. And that�s all.

[naomi24]

And of course, you can say that without a shadow of a doubt, because you know. Well, if you really do know, then you're the only person on this planet who does.

[keyplus90]

Another award for Naomi ...............................................please someone listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[naomi24]

Keyplus, Whenever the subject of debate falls outside your comprehension, your only recourse is to resort to schoolboy ridicule - and it happens time and time again with me. This is the second time this afternoon. What a very silly man you are. Perhaps if you listened a little more, you might be more capable of conducting a civilised discussion and of staying the course.

[keyplus90]

I only have civilized debate with people who are willing to admit when they hear something they did not know.

And trust me, although I am not 100% perfect but there are not many things out of my comprehension, of course the only person in the history of mankind who have a complete grasp over everything is known as Naomi on AB.

My recourse is not of a school boy, but I believe in a well known saying.

the best answer to someone who would not understand is silence and leaving them alone.

But I still could not do that could I�����..

[naomi24]

Oh dear, point proven I think.

And Keyplus, please don't keep telling me to trust you. I've told you many times, I'd rather trust a killer shark.

[RavenD]

No they are not the same person. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are God. One God existing as three separate individuals.This is not a problem as God is Omnipotent and can exist how he wants to exist. But The Father and The Son are in Heaven. Whilst The Holy Spirit is now on Earth sent by The Father and working in the lives of the people here on Earth.