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Ratter15, the nice thing about this site is that you can ask questions about things which are on your mind, no matter how silly they may seem to other people. We all need a bit of help from time to time. I remember reading once that mince going brown was absolutely nothing to do with it going "off" but more about colouring due to oxygen, and was not harmful. This may be rubbish but I value other people's opinions, hence asking on here. "Why would you ask such a silly question" is a really idiotic thing to say. Most of the questions on here are silly, but we would still like others' opinions.