More budget......cash for aliens!

[R1Geezer]

Ok pretty good mostly but Osborne said the only 2 things that are ring fenced are healh, fair enough and sm3gging foriegn aid! Perlease, how fair up sh1t creek do we need to get before we stop dolling out cash to ungrateful foriegners? F_F_S Osborne you're a Tory get your priorities right!

[Seadragon]

P.s - I agree that foreign aid should be given but the amount is disputed and the accountability of it and that it should not be made a legal req.

Baz your references to Jake are disgusting. Next time don't argue against immigration and terrorism as politically you don't seem to have an idea.

You think this country is in 'severe debt' is it that you fear your standard of living will drop to that of a third world person living a shack with no drainage system and no fresh water supply? I feel for you, I really do.

[bazwillrun]

Oh dear another leftie apologist

"politically you don't seem to have an idea" what, and you do ? best laugh i've had for a long time Pfffft

[Zeuhl]

A quick look at the Office for National Statistics website shows that in 2002 (latest figures available) at least 48% of the aid is categorised under the following headings;
Technical Cooperation
Aid in Kind
Investments
Aid and Trade Provision

which suggests that much of the aid isn't simply a cash handout and indeed probably involves the employment of British firms and expertise and potential ongoing business.

[Seadragon]

As they say Baz - laughter is free, shouldn't affect your finances.
Good post from Zeuhl.

[Davethedog]

Why is it that anyone with a different opinion to any right winger is a "lefty"?

Is it due to, as I have said many times before, that rather than actualy look at the facts, they would rather take red top rhetoric as fact.

And instead of putting forward any sort of cogent argument, find it far easier to just insult people.

[Zeuhl]

Dave

good question.

I never thought of myself as 'lefty' until I came on here, where it seems to be confused with thoughtfullness or objective reasoning, but then if you go back to this particular question, it appears that George Osborne is one too!

[Kromovaracun]

jno:

I think there's a problem with your Marshall plan argument. Bear in mind it was quite an intensive cash injection that was also coupled with a very strong multinational western military occupation, and with political control and reorganisation by the Western powers. You're right that it might show foreign aid fashioning a state into a valuable ally, but if it did then it did so at an extremely high level of involvement and painstaking work over several years in quite unique circumstances. If the purpose of foreign aid is to do what you're arguing, then to be successful it'd require a far deeper and less sustainable involvement than just money.

[Davethedog]

True.

I like to think I walk a middle line but I find nothing wrong with compassion or humanity as I can see neither do you Zeuhl.

But foriegn aid as you so succinctly stated has little to do with charity and a lot to do with promotion.

[youngmafbog]

Not much point in nurturing busines with those that will never be able to pay. That is just leftie doctrine.
Charity begins at home and my god after 13 years of Labour throwing money around like confetti thats what we need to do.
The likes of Jake will never comprehend, they on another planet. Pity they just dont p*ss off to China or Russia. Of course both these regimes are also realising the benfits of capitalism.

One rule, never argue with a fool or an out and out champaign solitilist, they are much the same

[Zeuhl]

///champaign solitilist///

????

is that supposed to be champagne socialist?

My rule is never try and debate with someone who is either drunk or a moron.

So bye bye. You can go now.

[DrFilth]

the link the ed gave about bikers protesting is about westminster council charging bikers to park

http://www.motorcycle...scrapped-permanently/

[bazwillrun]

and my rule is never try and debate with self righteous ignorant and patronising lefties who think they are clever but most certainly arent

jog on little boy

[IggyB]

baz your rule actually seems to be never debate with anyone that disagrees with me just insult them instead - this makes you seem a little foolish and immature.

run slowly on small chap???

[bazwillrun]

originality obviously isnt your forte, never mind