Thank you stoke for the tips. Unfortunately I missed logging on yesterday with getting ready for the races and the gardener came to do the garden we left home about 9.15. I didn't actually win much. Backed Kool Henry e/w which he ran second, my second choice Love over gold didn't. I did choose bollin Judith and karaka jack earlier, and could have kicked myself for not having a bet in the 17.20 when it won. Had a good day out though, it was heaving never seen so many young lasses there with next to nothing on. Some of them had come for the evening concert "Scouting for Girls" was playing there,