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4d (7)
In cookery the process of thickening sauces, soups, etc., as by the addition of eggs, cream, butter or flour
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L?A?S?N
It looks like LIAISON but I cant see it

17d (8)
An assistant to the churchwarden who collects offerings of money in the church

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[Mamyalynne]

17 Sidesman

[Mamyalynne]

4 yes that is right

[Lie-in King]

You're right with 'Liaison'

Sidesman

[Mamyalynne]

li·ai·son
noun /ˈlēəˌzän/  /lēˈā-/ 
liaisons, plural

Communication or cooperation that facilitates a close working relationship between people or organizations
- the head porter works in close liaison with the reception office

A person who acts as a link to assist communication or cooperation between groups of people
- he's our liaison with a number of interested parties

A sexual relationship, esp. one that is secret and involves unfaithfulness to a partner

The binding or thickening agent of a sauce, often based on egg yolks

(in French and other languages) The sounding of a consonant that is normally silent at the end of a word because the next word begins with a vowel

[sandyRoe]

Ulysses

[Lie-in King]

The Roman name is 'Ulysses' (?)

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Thank you all so much!
Thank you Mammyalynne
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Headwreck
Sandyroe
All help very much appreciated and you should all "Take a bow"
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