Is the Baroness correct in saying this?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....s-claim-benefits.html

At last someone who is prepared to make her views known on this particular issue, and she can do this without the fear of being labelled a racist.

Good for you Baroness.

[anotheoldgit]

keyplus90

i would if I knew what you were talking about, can't you speak English? :0) (only a play on words, don't take offence)

However what I also failed to understand was when you typed :

/// "And your own prime minister is saying (after the recent riots) that Britain has to bring back family values. ///

Consequently, what I now must ask you,

"Isn't he also 'YOUR' Prime Minister also".

[anotheoldgit]

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sp1814

/// And why is it universal? A couple on £250,000 a year get child benefit, just like a couple on £25,000 a year.///

From April 2013, Child Benefit will not be paid to parents who are higher rate taxpayers.

[tamborine]

Child support is every child's right. A rich mother can refuse it or buy bonds for the child.

If the Gov changes the rules we should be able to reduce our tax payments accordingly.

[emmie]

tambourine, everyone's rights, that is the bugbear, everyone goes on about rights, how about not having endless children that you can't support.
and someone on 250,000 will be paying a damn sight more in tax, than joe bloggs who has a low paid job, and can claim for his 5 kids.

[tamborine]

Em, birth control is not the subject here.

[emmie]

wasn't referring to birth control, i was referring to not have endless children that you expect the state to pick up the tab for, the state meaning tax payers.
The welfare bill is enormous, and the pit isn't bottomless

[keyplus90]

Yes he is my prime minister too. As to not understanding my English, I have heard more like that about others too from you before. So let's finish with this.

Either you (as you have posted this question) or Baroness (as she has raised this issue) should give any statistics that Pakistani and Bangladeshis have more children than Indians?

[VHG]

>>Pakistani and Bangadeshi parents producing large families to claim
>>more benefits...is a spurious claim,at best

A white friend of mine went to an Asian wedding a year or so back.

While there he said he learned more about "fiddling" the benefit system than he had in his whole life.

Many Asians come from a country where they state give you nothing, so when they come here they cant believe what we "give away" in benefits so they spend a lot of time working out how to take advantage of it and sharing the details with others.

My wife works with disabled children, and a couple of years ago word went round that a certain childrens illness (which qualified for disability allowance) was hard to prove by doctors. So thousands of Asian parents in Birmingham (where we live) went to the doctor saying there child had this. Often the Asian doctors would sign it off.

Birmingham council were swamped by Asian parents claiming their children had this illness and asking for disability allowance.

We dont realise how much we are being scammed by these people.

[dave50]

You'e risking it a bit arent you VHG telling an unpalatable truth about an ethnic minority? You will now get the usual head in the sand brigade asking you 'how do you know' or 'have you got any figures to back you up'.

[anotheoldgit]

keyplus90

/// Either you (as you have posted this question) or Baroness (as she has raised this issue) should give any statistics that Pakistani and Bangladeshis have more children than Indians? ///

Only too willing to oblige, here is the population growth among Britain's ethnic minorities.

Black (Mixed): 49%
Black (African): 37%
Bangladeshi: 30%
Pakistani: 13%
Chinese: 5%
Indian: 4%
White: 1%
Black (Caribbean): 0%
Source: ONS



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1556901.stm

This was 12 years ago, it must be even greater now.

[keyplus90]

Thanks for the link. And that again proves my point that why Baroness only picked Bangladeshi and Pakistanis. She is not interested in other figures there even if they are higher than Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

[jno]

Bangladesh has among the highest population growth rates in the world. I can't see any reason why that would stop the minute any of them arrive in Britain - and it's certainly not evidence that they're doing it to get a council house, since they weren't before.