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Rape is Rape ... Idiots ... I am steaming!
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I can hardly read today's papers without screaming.
What is WRONG with these idiot women?
They are attacking Kenneth Clarke for disagreeing with the suggestion that "rape is rape".
So here are 2 scenarios ...
Scenario (1)
Me and the BF roll in a bit p!ssed. He wants a bonk. I'm not really up for it. As we fall asleep, he has his way with me, kisses me, and falls asleep.
I wake up wondering why there's a sticky patch on my side of the bed.
He give me a coffee, and some toast.
Scenario (2)
As I walk home, a bag is thrown over my head. Four strangers drag me, screaming, into an alley. To stop me screaming, they punch me in the face, until I am unconscious. They take turns raping me, in the dirt, behind the wheelie bins.
I wake up in hospital, connected to a drip feed. My nose is broken. I have lost a lot of blood.
The doctor tells me that the men who raped me were arrested buying drugs. One of them is known to be HIV positive, and I will need to be tested.
So ...
There is really NO difference between these rapes?
As a victim, I should feel no worse about scenario (2)?
God almighty.
Feminists have a track record of making the rest of us look stupid, but this time they've really gone too far.
These women are morons !!!!!!!
What is WRONG with these idiot women?
They are attacking Kenneth Clarke for disagreeing with the suggestion that "rape is rape".
So here are 2 scenarios ...
Scenario (1)
Me and the BF roll in a bit p!ssed. He wants a bonk. I'm not really up for it. As we fall asleep, he has his way with me, kisses me, and falls asleep.
I wake up wondering why there's a sticky patch on my side of the bed.
He give me a coffee, and some toast.
Scenario (2)
As I walk home, a bag is thrown over my head. Four strangers drag me, screaming, into an alley. To stop me screaming, they punch me in the face, until I am unconscious. They take turns raping me, in the dirt, behind the wheelie bins.
I wake up in hospital, connected to a drip feed. My nose is broken. I have lost a lot of blood.
The doctor tells me that the men who raped me were arrested buying drugs. One of them is known to be HIV positive, and I will need to be tested.
So ...
There is really NO difference between these rapes?
As a victim, I should feel no worse about scenario (2)?
God almighty.
Feminists have a track record of making the rest of us look stupid, but this time they've really gone too far.
These women are morons !!!!!!!
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I realised that samak but I was trying to make you see it from the other way round.
But yes if your wife forces you to have sex after have said no then, yes you have been violated and yes that is rape. And don't come back with the argument that it isn't possible for a man to get aroused unless he wants sex because it is.
But yes if your wife forces you to have sex after have said no then, yes you have been violated and yes that is rape. And don't come back with the argument that it isn't possible for a man to get aroused unless he wants sex because it is.
You had sex with me.
I love you.
I usually agree to sex with you.
I did not want sex on the day in question
JJ that is terribly simplistic compared to your opening statement which included graphic details of how the rape took place. Im afraid to say it but you have almost done what papers do in over sensationalised some parts and under sold others.
lets look again:
You had sex with me. You forced yourself on top of me and brusied me in the process. You held me down so tight that you might have broke my wrist.
I love you and thats why I cried all through it because of the emotional trauma it has put me through
I usually agree to sex with you. But today I was very upset about something and wanted you to be an understanding husband.
I did not want sex on the day in question and now i dont think i ever will again.
First off, that was horrible for me to write so apologise if it causes anyone upset. But you CANNOT say that what I have written was any lees horrific for someone than one of your examples because it depends how the victim reacts to it! So That is why a rape Can be a rape!
I understand you are trying to take the emotion out of it and do from a law perspective but I think there are other ways of looking at it too.
And if you go along your line of thinking you could argue that date rape is hardly a crime at all because the victim doesn't remember it (That was intenionally controversial just to show the extreme side of what JJ has alluded to.)
I love you.
I usually agree to sex with you.
I did not want sex on the day in question
JJ that is terribly simplistic compared to your opening statement which included graphic details of how the rape took place. Im afraid to say it but you have almost done what papers do in over sensationalised some parts and under sold others.
lets look again:
You had sex with me. You forced yourself on top of me and brusied me in the process. You held me down so tight that you might have broke my wrist.
I love you and thats why I cried all through it because of the emotional trauma it has put me through
I usually agree to sex with you. But today I was very upset about something and wanted you to be an understanding husband.
I did not want sex on the day in question and now i dont think i ever will again.
First off, that was horrible for me to write so apologise if it causes anyone upset. But you CANNOT say that what I have written was any lees horrific for someone than one of your examples because it depends how the victim reacts to it! So That is why a rape Can be a rape!
I understand you are trying to take the emotion out of it and do from a law perspective but I think there are other ways of looking at it too.
And if you go along your line of thinking you could argue that date rape is hardly a crime at all because the victim doesn't remember it (That was intenionally controversial just to show the extreme side of what JJ has alluded to.)
this will undoubtedly create anger and possibly hatred towards me but here goes...
statutory Rape is not Rape .... it is 2 persons consenting to physical act (CONSENTING) Been the Only word taken into account age should only be considered when the gap in age is of a concerning amount IE; girl/boy 15..... man/woman 20+ ( imo a 5 year gap between adulthood and childhood is mentally immense as far as experience goes ) an in that regard NO prison should be in affect if it say a 15 yr old girl/boy with 16-18 yr old girl or boy simply because they would more than likely already be within the same social group and therefore understandable ( also in general a 15 yr old girl is more mature than an 18 yr old boy ) another reason circumstances like these arise.
violent rape premeditated or not should carry a life sentence without the possibility of parole and or release.
Rape on minors imo only should be capital punishment .
original post EG1 .. he should get a kick in the nads or made to buy extravagant gifts breakfast in bed for a year and no sex (girlfriends choice of time)
but i do want to finish on a serious point in the last 20 years Rape has been used more and more as a weapon by woman simply because disproving it is alot harder than convincing 12 people of innocence and this is a vastly documented problem and because of which 140 million pounds of tax payers money per year are spent on appeals retrials repeated forensic testing of the same evidence and court appointed legal representatives judges clerks police NHS doctors (testers) and prison services all of which are needless if the law changes to the american way of NO EVIDENCE no trial ... England still employ the legal right to appear before a judge to plead your case via the prosecution account V's the defendants account ( if you can lie well and turn of the tears you could convince anybody and when people see a woman crying and telling a story of woe and then a man whos only defence is " i didnt do it " how would you vote .......because before a friend of mine was put in that position i know what my vote would have been and that is a tragic consequence of hearing a word and a picture of a disgusting violent monster been the resulting image )
you should think very long and hard at what the word actually means and what it conjures up in your mind.
statutory Rape is not Rape .... it is 2 persons consenting to physical act (CONSENTING) Been the Only word taken into account age should only be considered when the gap in age is of a concerning amount IE; girl/boy 15..... man/woman 20+ ( imo a 5 year gap between adulthood and childhood is mentally immense as far as experience goes ) an in that regard NO prison should be in affect if it say a 15 yr old girl/boy with 16-18 yr old girl or boy simply because they would more than likely already be within the same social group and therefore understandable ( also in general a 15 yr old girl is more mature than an 18 yr old boy ) another reason circumstances like these arise.
violent rape premeditated or not should carry a life sentence without the possibility of parole and or release.
Rape on minors imo only should be capital punishment .
original post EG1 .. he should get a kick in the nads or made to buy extravagant gifts breakfast in bed for a year and no sex (girlfriends choice of time)
but i do want to finish on a serious point in the last 20 years Rape has been used more and more as a weapon by woman simply because disproving it is alot harder than convincing 12 people of innocence and this is a vastly documented problem and because of which 140 million pounds of tax payers money per year are spent on appeals retrials repeated forensic testing of the same evidence and court appointed legal representatives judges clerks police NHS doctors (testers) and prison services all of which are needless if the law changes to the american way of NO EVIDENCE no trial ... England still employ the legal right to appear before a judge to plead your case via the prosecution account V's the defendants account ( if you can lie well and turn of the tears you could convince anybody and when people see a woman crying and telling a story of woe and then a man whos only defence is " i didnt do it " how would you vote .......because before a friend of mine was put in that position i know what my vote would have been and that is a tragic consequence of hearing a word and a picture of a disgusting violent monster been the resulting image )
you should think very long and hard at what the word actually means and what it conjures up in your mind.
this will undoubtedly create anger and possibly hatred towards me but here goes...
statutory Rape is not Rape .... it is 2 persons consenting to physical act (CONSENTING) Been the Only word taken into account age should only be considered when the gap in age is of a concerning amount IE; girl/boy 15..... man/woman 20+ ( imo a 5 year gap between adulthood and childhood is mentally immense as far as experience goes ) an in that regard NO prison should be in affect if it say a 15 yr old girl/boy with 16-18 yr old girl or boy simply because they would more than likely already be within the same social group and therefore understandable ( also in general a 15 yr old girl is more mature than an 18 yr old boy ) another reason circumstances like these arise.
violent rape premeditated or not should carry a life sentence without the possibility of parole and or release.
Rape on minors imo only should be capital punishment .
original post EG1 .. he should get a kick in the nads or made to buy extravagant gifts breakfast in bed for a year and no sex (girlfriends choice of time)
but i do want to finish on a serious point in the last 20 years Rape has been used more and more as a weapon by woman simply because disproving it is alot harder than convincing 12 people of innocence and this is a vastly documented problem and because of which 140 million pounds of tax payers money per year are spent on appeals retrials repeated forensic testing of the same evidence and court appointed legal representatives judges clerks police NHS doctors (testers) and prison services all of which are needless if the law changes to the american way of NO EVIDENCE no trial ... England still employ the legal right to appear before a judge to plead your case via the prosecution account V's the defendants account ( if you can lie well and turn of the tears you could convince anybody and when people see a woman crying and telling a story of woe and then a man whos only defence is " i didnt do it " how would you vote .......because before a friend of mine was put in that position i know what my vote would have been and that is a tragic consequence of hearing a word and a picture of a disgusting violent monster been the resulting image )
you should think very long and hard at what the word actually means and what it conjures up in your mind.
statutory Rape is not Rape .... it is 2 persons consenting to physical act (CONSENTING) Been the Only word taken into account age should only be considered when the gap in age is of a concerning amount IE; girl/boy 15..... man/woman 20+ ( imo a 5 year gap between adulthood and childhood is mentally immense as far as experience goes ) an in that regard NO prison should be in affect if it say a 15 yr old girl/boy with 16-18 yr old girl or boy simply because they would more than likely already be within the same social group and therefore understandable ( also in general a 15 yr old girl is more mature than an 18 yr old boy ) another reason circumstances like these arise.
violent rape premeditated or not should carry a life sentence without the possibility of parole and or release.
Rape on minors imo only should be capital punishment .
original post EG1 .. he should get a kick in the nads or made to buy extravagant gifts breakfast in bed for a year and no sex (girlfriends choice of time)
but i do want to finish on a serious point in the last 20 years Rape has been used more and more as a weapon by woman simply because disproving it is alot harder than convincing 12 people of innocence and this is a vastly documented problem and because of which 140 million pounds of tax payers money per year are spent on appeals retrials repeated forensic testing of the same evidence and court appointed legal representatives judges clerks police NHS doctors (testers) and prison services all of which are needless if the law changes to the american way of NO EVIDENCE no trial ... England still employ the legal right to appear before a judge to plead your case via the prosecution account V's the defendants account ( if you can lie well and turn of the tears you could convince anybody and when people see a woman crying and telling a story of woe and then a man whos only defence is " i didnt do it " how would you vote .......because before a friend of mine was put in that position i know what my vote would have been and that is a tragic consequence of hearing a word and a picture of a disgusting violent monster been the resulting image )
you should think very long and hard at what the word actually means and what it conjures up in your mind.
ok i feel i have to point something else out ...as i missed it in last post ... the number for Rape convictions are among the highest conviction rates of any crime.
you are 90% more likely to be found guilty by jury for rape than say drugs assault murder car crime theft etc etc etc etc etc...........
if your going to jump on the band wagon regarding a subject like this the dont look at government report statistics regarding convictions.......look at the annual CPS prosecution report !!!! they are the only true statistics for crime .... the government like to pull a left hand right hand trick with numbers ... seriously if u dont know that you aint been in England long.
further more ..... scenario 1 .... is rape .... same circumstances with alcohol involved rape maybe .. will wife or husband be angry maybe .. forget it definitely if they even remember at all EITHER OF THEM For Funks Sake im not saying its necessarily right but its understandable!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it already .... the degrees of Rape are massive but no rape is not rape circumstances relationship intoxicants environment and personal views are MAJOR factors.
the problem is like i said you hear the word RAPE and think OMFG he a monster a dirty degenerate who must be locked away.
in todays society when winking at a woman can get you fired and put on the sex offenders register as a sexual harasser or are questioned as to your intent about doing a mate or family member a favor and picking up their kids from school dont you think as a nation NAY AS A BLOODY PEOPLE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE are we not paranoid and self obsessed with pointing the finger and screaming JAIL.
when some one voices an opinion about a touchy subject that isnt on mass agreed with the trend seems to have become make them also the bad guy if everybody in the world thought the same no country would differ in anyway ....
in Pakistan India Georgia Africa still some parts or far east Asia some parts of central Europe the LEGAL AGE TO HAVE CONSENTING SEX IS ??? YEAH U GOT IT 14............this is a far worse sittuation in my book than 2 drunk teenagers having a bonk ( becoz the eldest of these 2 cud go to jail WILL go on the sex offenders register and their life is screwed forever ) << is that fair?
tbh IMO only 50% of rapes dont even happen 20% is drink and drugs both out their minds the other 30% is wrong horrid and i feel sorry for the victims but the word itself causes more DMG than the act does and thats something nobody ever thinks about the law certainly hasnt becoz last year it was reported that about 40% of convicted rapists are belived to be wrongly convicted becoz the people hear a word and react to it.
you are 90% more likely to be found guilty by jury for rape than say drugs assault murder car crime theft etc etc etc etc etc...........
if your going to jump on the band wagon regarding a subject like this the dont look at government report statistics regarding convictions.......look at the annual CPS prosecution report !!!! they are the only true statistics for crime .... the government like to pull a left hand right hand trick with numbers ... seriously if u dont know that you aint been in England long.
further more ..... scenario 1 .... is rape .... same circumstances with alcohol involved rape maybe .. will wife or husband be angry maybe .. forget it definitely if they even remember at all EITHER OF THEM For Funks Sake im not saying its necessarily right but its understandable!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it already .... the degrees of Rape are massive but no rape is not rape circumstances relationship intoxicants environment and personal views are MAJOR factors.
the problem is like i said you hear the word RAPE and think OMFG he a monster a dirty degenerate who must be locked away.
in todays society when winking at a woman can get you fired and put on the sex offenders register as a sexual harasser or are questioned as to your intent about doing a mate or family member a favor and picking up their kids from school dont you think as a nation NAY AS A BLOODY PEOPLE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE are we not paranoid and self obsessed with pointing the finger and screaming JAIL.
when some one voices an opinion about a touchy subject that isnt on mass agreed with the trend seems to have become make them also the bad guy if everybody in the world thought the same no country would differ in anyway ....
in Pakistan India Georgia Africa still some parts or far east Asia some parts of central Europe the LEGAL AGE TO HAVE CONSENTING SEX IS ??? YEAH U GOT IT 14............this is a far worse sittuation in my book than 2 drunk teenagers having a bonk ( becoz the eldest of these 2 cud go to jail WILL go on the sex offenders register and their life is screwed forever ) << is that fair?
tbh IMO only 50% of rapes dont even happen 20% is drink and drugs both out their minds the other 30% is wrong horrid and i feel sorry for the victims but the word itself causes more DMG than the act does and thats something nobody ever thinks about the law certainly hasnt becoz last year it was reported that about 40% of convicted rapists are belived to be wrongly convicted becoz the people hear a word and react to it.
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