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Two Female Police Officers Shot Dead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19635239
I'm re-posting this because I am truly ashamed of how I posted my initial thread.
I was highly emotional - perhaps no excuse? and I wish to retract my hasty and ill founded comments about fellow ABers.
I am only human and sometimes fall short of my own standards.
I'm re-posting this because I am truly ashamed of how I posted my initial thread.
I was highly emotional - perhaps no excuse? and I wish to retract my hasty and ill founded comments about fellow ABers.
I am only human and sometimes fall short of my own standards.
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It is unclear whether Cregan or a member of the public called the police bringing them to the empty house.
If it were Cregan it would be a dreadful thing to do.
If it were a member of the public, then Cregan may have reacted like he did to escape.
The Roal Moat case could be one reason he headed for the police station to hand himself in.
If it were Cregan it would be a dreadful thing to do.
If it were a member of the public, then Cregan may have reacted like he did to escape.
The Roal Moat case could be one reason he headed for the police station to hand himself in.
em,
The Bail Act governs the decisions whether to grant bail or keep a suspect in custody to appear in court at the earliest convenient opportunity.
For example, if someone's arrested and interviewed it may well be that there is insufficient evidence - at that time - to justify charging them, in which case the Custody Sergeant will grant them bail pending further enquiries to try to obtain more evidence.
Then, the suspect has to return to the nick on a given date when they may be charged with an offence/offences IF enough evidence has come to light in the meantime. In which case the suspect will have to appear in court and face the charges.
However, it may well be that there hasn't been further evidence in which case the suspect will be realeased without charge and that's the end of the matter.
The Bail Act governs the decisions whether to grant bail or keep a suspect in custody to appear in court at the earliest convenient opportunity.
For example, if someone's arrested and interviewed it may well be that there is insufficient evidence - at that time - to justify charging them, in which case the Custody Sergeant will grant them bail pending further enquiries to try to obtain more evidence.
Then, the suspect has to return to the nick on a given date when they may be charged with an offence/offences IF enough evidence has come to light in the meantime. In which case the suspect will have to appear in court and face the charges.
However, it may well be that there hasn't been further evidence in which case the suspect will be realeased without charge and that's the end of the matter.
aog,
"why was he still wanted in connection with the murder?"
This is the situation - as I understand it:
1: The suspect Cregan was arrested in June on suspicion of a pub murder in May. He was subsequently bailed pending further enquiries because it was considered that there was insufficient evidence - at that time - to charge him.
2: Last month, the father of the first murder victim was also shot dead. Cregan, still on bail for the first murder, was also suspected of the second but was now 'on the run'.
3: A massive manhunt was mounted and a reward of £50K offered for information leading to Cregan's arrest and conviction.
4: Events culminated in yesterday's tragic incident.
"why was he still wanted in connection with the murder?"
This is the situation - as I understand it:
1: The suspect Cregan was arrested in June on suspicion of a pub murder in May. He was subsequently bailed pending further enquiries because it was considered that there was insufficient evidence - at that time - to charge him.
2: Last month, the father of the first murder victim was also shot dead. Cregan, still on bail for the first murder, was also suspected of the second but was now 'on the run'.
3: A massive manhunt was mounted and a reward of £50K offered for information leading to Cregan's arrest and conviction.
4: Events culminated in yesterday's tragic incident.
I wrote on Tuesday on this thread...
// I do not believe that Cregan turning up in a disused building in Hattersley was not entirely unexpected.
The other co accused of the Short's murders was Luke Livesey. I would be interested to know how how near from his address in Hatterley today's murders took place.
Sounds like a cock up sending the police women to that house.
kerosene wrote // Now, you try convincing me that there is any way on this God's earth that this horrific incident could have been forseen?
Shall I loan you my crystal ball for future reference? //
No Crystal Balls will be needed as today's Telegraph reports...
// Armed police staged a raid at a housing estate just weeks before two officers were targeted at an address there in a fatal gun and grenade attack, sources have confirmed.
A search took place on the morning of August 16 at a house on the Hattersley estate in Greater Manchester as part of the investigation to trace wanted murder suspect Dale Cregan.
Pc Nicola Hughes, 23, and Pc Fiona Bone, 32, were killed at a nearby address on the estate on Tuesday. //
// I do not believe that Cregan turning up in a disused building in Hattersley was not entirely unexpected.
The other co accused of the Short's murders was Luke Livesey. I would be interested to know how how near from his address in Hatterley today's murders took place.
Sounds like a cock up sending the police women to that house.
kerosene wrote // Now, you try convincing me that there is any way on this God's earth that this horrific incident could have been forseen?
Shall I loan you my crystal ball for future reference? //
No Crystal Balls will be needed as today's Telegraph reports...
// Armed police staged a raid at a housing estate just weeks before two officers were targeted at an address there in a fatal gun and grenade attack, sources have confirmed.
A search took place on the morning of August 16 at a house on the Hattersley estate in Greater Manchester as part of the investigation to trace wanted murder suspect Dale Cregan.
Pc Nicola Hughes, 23, and Pc Fiona Bone, 32, were killed at a nearby address on the estate on Tuesday. //
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