'islam Or Atheism: Which Makes More Sense?'.

[mushroom25]

the above is the title of a public debate that took place at University College Hospital on 9th March. The event has sparked some controversy which has been reported in the Daily Mail in its inimitable confrontational fashion.

UCL's stance is recorded here:-
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0313/11032013-meeting

whilst the opposing view is represented by a group called "student rights"
http://www.studentrights.org.uk/article/2060/iera_s_yusuf_chambers_claims_ucl_ban_is_islamophobic

question - who holds the moral high ground on this?

no link to the DM version, if you want it, it's easily found on their home page (in big blue friendly letters).

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9932108/Britons-afraid-to-challenge-radical-Islam-says-former-Obama-adviser.html

Professor Lawrence Krauss says the British people are too afraid to offend a "vocal and aggressive" section of the Muslim community who demand that their cultural values are accepted by wider society

I know what he means, they are some on AB who try to make others afraid to speak out

[LazyGun]

@AoG are you really trying to play the victim card here, because people quite rightly point out that you present your opinion or even outright fiction as fact?

What a poor oppressed minority you are.

I find it mildly amusing that you cite Lawrence Krauss in your whine... almost as if you are kindred spirits........ :)

[anotheoldgit]

LazyGun

/// What a poor oppressed minority you are.///

Then I would have thought that you and the rest of your flock, would only be too pleased to support me, are you not always ready to support oppressed minorities?

[LazyGun]

@AoG Only those worthy of supporting, AoG. I am not a fan of supporting self-inflicted minorities who imagine they are oppressed....

[jim360]

I suppose I too ought to declare that I don't have a donor card. Never got round to it. Will try to at some point.

[New Judge]

Yes Jake, the document you provide makes it quite clear that I am absolutely wrong.

What would be more interesting than a “new Muslim” advice sheet would be to establish how many visits are organised by State schools to Christian establishments when the school contains a reasonable number of Muslims. I imagine it would be very low - far lower than the number of non-Muslim children being dragged off to a Mosque to enable them to “appreciate” Islam.

[New Judge]

And I forgot to add that the very fact that Muslim organisations feel the need to clarify to their followers whether or not it is "permissable" to visit churches and synogogues speaks volumes. I doubt that Mrs_Overall was asked whether it was permissable for her son to visit a Mosque.

[emmie]

i didn't say this was specific to the UCL, i did however say that many people are bending over backwards to accommodate the followers of Islam. i had printed the text from UCL from their web page link on why they did not allow the meeting to be segregated, but one wonders why UCL they had to explain themselves anyway. They had already said no to the group about segregating the meeting, why did the leader not take that on board.. some are walking around with blinkers on.

[bazwillrun]

"it appears Muslims are reluctant to donate organs – but they have no objection to receiving them."

bit like our country , they hate our flag but they have no objection to recieving our benefits

[emmie]

baz, let's have a little balance, not all, but some certainly.

[mushroom25]

Islam or Atheism?

they're both as bad as each other, in some ways - maybe this is the way the debate should have been conducted.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajHs8tCWew

[LazyGun]

I would be interested to know in what ways atheism is as bad as Islam.... care to elaborate the ways, Mushroom?