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anti semetism rearing it's head in the "nice" party! What next?
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Not sure about this story. I mean, if I were to be critical of the political and economic aims of the French, for instance, or objected to their treatment of, say romanian gypsies, I could still be critical of those aims or policies without hating the French for being French, if you get what I mean.
And, although I do not know this chap,or his international political sympathies, this is the type of criticism I think he is levelling at the jewish state with respect to the way they treat the palestinian population residing within Israel and on the West Bank.In the absence of an apology from him, I do not see how the Lib Dems could do anything else. They have had a torrid time of late, haven't they? Clegg with his broken pledges, Laws with his expenses fiddling, Huhne with his speeding tickets fiddling,Mike Hancock and his russian spy mistress getting nuclear secrets from him and all that...
Back to the OP.I think there is a distinction between ,say, criticising jewish people out of a stereotyped hatred or dislike of their jewishness or culture, and criticising the way the state of Israel treats the Palestinians.
And I can sympathise to a degree with his sentiment. The jews have endured a long treatment of being treated abysmally in Europe, culminating in the atrocity that was the Holocaust, so it then becomes very difficult for an outsider to understand how on earth they in turn can treat a people so poorly.
And it becomes very difficult to criticise the Jewish state for its activities without being labelled an anti-semite. I imagine some people who argue against immigration into the UK might feel the same exasperation at being labelled racist when they voice a concern.
Having said all that - to try and draw a parallel between the Holocaust and the treatment of the Palestinians is pretty crass. There really is no comparison, and he should apologise for such a hyperbolic and offensive remark.
And, although I do not know this chap,or his international political sympathies, this is the type of criticism I think he is levelling at the jewish state with respect to the way they treat the palestinian population residing within Israel and on the West Bank.In the absence of an apology from him, I do not see how the Lib Dems could do anything else. They have had a torrid time of late, haven't they? Clegg with his broken pledges, Laws with his expenses fiddling, Huhne with his speeding tickets fiddling,Mike Hancock and his russian spy mistress getting nuclear secrets from him and all that...
Back to the OP.I think there is a distinction between ,say, criticising jewish people out of a stereotyped hatred or dislike of their jewishness or culture, and criticising the way the state of Israel treats the Palestinians.
And I can sympathise to a degree with his sentiment. The jews have endured a long treatment of being treated abysmally in Europe, culminating in the atrocity that was the Holocaust, so it then becomes very difficult for an outsider to understand how on earth they in turn can treat a people so poorly.
And it becomes very difficult to criticise the Jewish state for its activities without being labelled an anti-semite. I imagine some people who argue against immigration into the UK might feel the same exasperation at being labelled racist when they voice a concern.
Having said all that - to try and draw a parallel between the Holocaust and the treatment of the Palestinians is pretty crass. There really is no comparison, and he should apologise for such a hyperbolic and offensive remark.
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// Mr Ward, MP for Bradford East, wrote on his website in January that he was "saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps, be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza". //
Seems a fair comment to me.
// Mr Ward, MP for Bradford East, wrote on his website in January that he was "saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps, be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza". //
Seems a fair comment to me.
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