Saturday Times Prize Crossword 25598 Saturday October 5Th 2013

[SadOwl]

Spent an hour staring at this damn thing and haven't got a single clue!
Going to get The Sun!!!!!!

[factor-fiction]

Ask us a couple to get you started

[Baldric]

Give us a clue then!

[factor-fiction]

SadOwl may already have nipped out for The Sun

[Tilly2]

SadOwl's gone to fetch The Sun. Be patient.

[Tilly2]

Aw!

[factor-fiction]

Ah well, I've got to go out now- by the time I get back the Sun crossword will probably be all finished

[Svejk]

Stop copying, tilly.

[SadOwl]

12 ac) Unusually, GIs license ancient peace slogan (7,2,6).
21 ac) Doubt expressed perhaps, that marksman will succeed in opera (3,5,3,4).
Sorry to sound petulant, frustration showing.

[bibblebub]

12a) silence is golden = anagram of 'gis license' + olden

[bibblebub]

21a) you never can tell

[SadOwl]

Thanks bibblebub, I was looking for the anagram but didn't get 'olden' as the other part. I think I was over complicating 21 ac. See how I go now!

[ichkeria]

"You Never Can Tell" is a play, not an opera (sigh)
Right answer though :-)

[SadOwl]

Yes, I was doing my head in trying to think of an opera.

[Baldric]

How does
'you can never tell'
fit into 3 5 3 4

[baitress]

for ichkeria the opera referred to
is William Tell

[bibblebub]

yes - William Tell is the opera and perhaps the answer becomes clearer if a comma is included "you never can, Tell"

(and some people should be think a bit more before sighing)

[ichkeria]

Yes there is an opera called Willam Tell, but the definition for the answer is supposed to refer to the play by Shaw.

[ichkeria]

I'm sighing for a good reason

[Julest1]

Icheria you have the wrong literal. The definition is 'doubt expressed, perhaps' not 'opera'. You can stop sighing; there is no error, just a very oblique clue as many are this week.

[Julest1]

Sorry missed your k Ichkeria.