Cbi: Pro Europe. Pro Immigration

[Gromit]

// The president of the UK's leading business group has attacked "factually incorrect, emotive debates around immigration", saying that the opposition to migrants entering the UK is affecting the economic recovery.
Speaking at the CBI's annual conference on Monday morning, Sir Michael Rake said Britain must show it is open to immigration, and demanded the UK remain in the European Union. //

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10424711/CBI-emotive-immigration-debate-harming-recovery.html

Surely this great man cannot be wrong?

[Hypognosis]

//Do we not want such people?//

Yes we do. Upwardly mobile people keep buying things, so all manner of manufacturers and service industries make a few quid. Good for everyone.

If only our indigenous unemployed were so upbeat about their own futures and not demoralised or hated by all and sundry, eh?

[mikey4444]

Then our own unemployed should get up off their ars*s and go for the jobs that the immigrants are doing ! Then they might not be lying on that sofa, feeling depressed. Nobody is forcing them to stay on the dole for years. They should get on their bikes and go to work, as a certain previous Tory minister suggested.

[Hypognosis]

Clearly your good self and Mr Tebbit Snr. never had a demoralised day in their entire lives.

Try standing up and doing stuff when there's an elephant sat on you. Or at least that what it feels like.

[mikey4444]

If you have personal problems, then please accept my sympathy Hypognosis.

Its just that I am getting a tad p*ssed off with people here on AB castigating immigrants for taking jobs that our own unemployed can't or won't take.

[Kromovaracun]

AOG

"Why do we even have need top import more foreign students, we have enough al ready who cannot get jobs that fits their years of studying? "

Students outside the EU pay considerably more than domestic students, and are not subsidised. The UK's universities make a huge profit off them.

"How will importing even more immigrants in this country, who have nothing to give to this country help our economy. "

This is complicated - and it really depends what part of the economy you're looking at. In health, there simply aren't enough UK-born medical students to meet the health sector's needs. And those needs, given our aging population, are only going to grow.

I agree with Jake. We treat foreign people very differently to how we treat foreign products or foreign money.

[tamborine]

USA States are all governed by central government in Washington where citizens taxes are collectively paid. Not so with EU, where member countries governments retain taxes for their own citizens.

EU is NOT same as USA

[FredPuli43]

Everything I said about the US is correct tambo. I made no reference to state taxes and federal taxes.

[Hypognosis]

Judging by the stuff I used to see in Facebook discussions there is an ugly undercurrent about anything to do with Federal-level taxes, where it seems to be generally believed that states with full employment are pretty much subsidising the residents of states with endemic unemployment and (surprise, surprise) practically the opposite ethnic mix.

So, if you're think we're racist, just remember they do everything on a bigger scale, over there. :-/

@tambo

//EU is NOT same as USA //

Not yet. How long do you think it will be before a European Federal tax is brought in? (Or, in a roundabout way, are we already paying one?)