Why The Need For Such Discriminatory Awards?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2514725/Malala-Yousafzai-voted-UKs-powerful-Asian-GG2-leadership-diversity-awards.html

Whereas I have every admiration for this young girl, but was there a need to bestow on her the title of 'the country’s most influential Asian', at this year’s GG2 Leadership and Diversity Awards?

Once again I stress this is not about her not being worthy of such an award, only the point of why is it necessary to hold such awards?

The same being said regarding this award,

/// The GG2 Young Journalist of the Year award, which is sponsored by the Daily Mail, was won by Nazia Dewji, a 25-year-old reporter for the Surrey Comet and Kingston Guardian. ///

/// The annual prize is open to journalists under 30 from any ethnic minority. ///

Once again I do not doubt the worthiness of these two youngsters to be awarded these honours only the need for them to be conducted in the first place.

[mccfluff]

i got it, but it certainly wasn't irony

[sandyRoe]

Who is this Zane Malik?

[jomifl]

I guess if she had to wait for the Afghan government to give her an award (other than a death sentence) she would need a letter box in her grave.

[browntrout]

SP1814,
Perhaps I phrased it a little clumsily.Sorry.

[sp1814]

sandyRoe

He's a member of One Direction.

He's so pretty that you cannot look at him directly in the face (I've met him a few times)...it's like looking at the sun directly...makes your eyes sting.

[naomi24]

//Why The Need For Such Discriminatory Awards?//

Because it’s right to recognise achievement in specific areas. We have all sorts of awards - ‘Child of the Year’ - awards for disabled people who have overcome adversity. What better example to young people – and to many older people - than Malala? She deserves every accolade that’s bestowed upon her.

[naomi24]

For sandyRoe .... and SP.

http://onedirection.wikia.com/wiki/Zayn_Malik

[jomifl]

sp, whatever floats your whatever :o)

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thank you, but I shan't click on your link. I find young good looking men comprehensively irritating.

[jomifl]

sp, at least they take all the airheads and bimbos of the field leaving only discerning women, so fewer frogs to have to kiss as the erpression has it.

[FredPuli43]

Good to see that the paper sponsors an award for young journalists from ethnic minorities. The Mail clearly sees the need for one. Do we take that you don't agree with the paper in that, AOG ? Some who post on here delight in presenting stories that put 'ethnic minorities' and , in particular, young members of those groups, in a bad light. It is good that these people have an opportunity to redress the balance.

[LazyGun]

Isn't this just a variant on the "why do we have a Black Police Association", or "MOBO awards are racist" questions?

A similar misunderstanding of what constitutes unfairness and equality fuels all these questions. Whilst there remains discrimination on the basis of colour of someones skin, there will be a need for such groups and awards.

[FredPuli43]

Why, indeed, is there a Burma Star Association, a British limbless ex-servicemen association, an Association of Jewish ex-servicemen and women, or a British limbless association ? There are myriad such groups. Aren't there needs covered by other, more general bodies? No, because they have shared interests and have shared experiences. (Pause for someone to say that you can't compare our gallant soldiery with ethnic groups) The point is still valid. All have shared interests and experiences, best represented by a specific grouping, and that is true of these other organisations and award schemes.

[anotheoldgit]

LazyGun

/// Whilst there remains discrimination on the basis of colour of someones skin, there will be a need for such groups and awards. ///

And could they not be by their very nature also shown to be discriminatory against those who happen to be born with a white skin?

Why are there also no UK 'most powerful white English'? or why not the need to bestow on someone the title 'the country’s most influential white person', or even an annual prize open to journalists under 30 from any except the ethnic minority?

[LazyGun]

@AoG "And could they not be by their very nature also shown to be discriminatory against those who happen to be born with a white skin?

Why are there also no UK 'most powerful white English'? or why not the need to bestow on someone the title 'the country’s most influential white person', or even an annual prize open to journalists under 30 from any except the ethnic minority?"

And this is the issue you raise every single time, and every single time you get the same answer. Its not complicated, its just that you refuse to accept that answer.

White British have no need for such pro-active encouragement. And as for a list of the "most powerful white british" - A simple look at the UK Rich List, or a look at the UK Cabinet, or a list of the top 100 CEOs should tell you that being white british does not represent a bar to success in quite the same way that having black or brown skin has been and still is to some extent.

[FredPuli43]

The Daily Mail accepts there is a need, otherwise why would they sponsor such an award, AOG? Do you think they are trying to get in with ethnic minorities for some reason? Or is it that they see the enterprise is worthwhile? What reason do you think they have?

[Svejk]

You can't win, AoG. I think you'll just have to accept
that some people like to patronise ethnic minorities.
Probably makes them feel all warm and benevolent
and ,no doubt, superior.

[sp1814]

AOG

Do you get this bit of LazyGun's post:

"being white british does not represent a bar to success in quite the same way that having black or brown skin has been and still is to some extent."

Or is further clarification required?

[Zeuhl]

/You can't win, AoG./

No he can't svek

Because he fails to understand the fundamental fact of 'awards' and drags out the same nonsensical criticisms every time.

Award schemes are created (and funded) by people and organisations who WANT them. That is everyone's prerogative.

Aog could organise his own if he wanted.

Of course he wouldn't.

Because some people get up and do things. Others just raise silly reasons why they shouldn't be 'allowed to'

[FredPuli43]

Svejk, if we see no reason to object to something are we being patronising to anyone involved in it ? The instant one means that the Daily Mail is being patronising, but I mean in general. If so, the next time you don't criticise or oppose something, get ready to be called patronising. It would be a true opinion, whatever the subject matter, by your standards.