Is This Pointless Or Am I Being Overly Picky?

[Mosaic]

https://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/pe_mla/c/cassiobury_park_turret_clock.aspx

The question is, why have a silent clip showing a signing person?

[THECORBYLOON]

MAGGIEBEE, you say 'of course' but on the likes of the See Hear programmes, there were full subtitles. I have no experience of BSL but I am aware of it and the need for some words and names to be spelt out. The signer used was a regular on See Hear so it seemed odd there was a need only to subtitle finger spelling.

[gness]

Corby...The BM has got together with organisations in the deaf community to provide a service for those whose language is BSL...hence these videos.

See Hear subtitles all the information because it's not only for those who use BSL but for the hard of hearing who use other ways.

[gness]

Just struck me, Maggie.....there is actually a sign that could be used for
Corbyloon......but only because I'm not far from Corby so we had local signs. The loon bit I will leave to your imagination.

In the deaf community here I wasn't Mrs. Gness....my name was a sign for sewing because I did so much of it....☺

[THECORBYLOON]

I'm sure there must be a sign for "loon" in Scots Sign Language or the dialect forms of it or BSL, in the context that I use it.

[maggiebee]

Think that's one of the difficulties of learning to sign Corby and one that I didn't understand until my daughter had to learn it for her job. Just as in spoken language there are regional differences, so signing in Dundee will be different from signing in say Aberdeen. Sure there is a sign for loon in the north east of Scotland where they speak the Doric.

[gness]

Thank you, Mosaic. I hope we have made things clear. It's a difficult language to understand til you start to learn and communicate.
It is natural to assume you are just going to learn a sign for a word....then sign those words in order....doing that just makes you look like you're having a funny turn....☺

My husband found it difficult to see why I made such unusual faces when I signed. There is a very good reason as discussed on a thread a little while ago....x

[Eve]

I think it's great. My signing is very very rusty now, but to me the subtitled words are words that wouldn't be commonly known or spelt out rather than signed (if you know the signing alphabet you can see him signing some words letter by letter) so there is a quick reference to it.

It is good as you can focus on the signing and just flick down to any words which may need clarification so like having someone speaking to you via signing, rather than having to rely on subtitles.

It is good to be able to concentrate on the person as, as Gness said, there is also a lot to be read from facial and other expressions, lip reading etc... and signing isn't as literal as what would be spoken. Expression helped me immensely when I was learning to sign and chatting to deaf people as you can convey so much more than you realise without speaking.

[gness]

I wish I had kept it up after finishing work, Eve....like any language you lose it if you don't use it but there were few to sign to on a regular basis.

[Eve]

I wish I had too though it's difficult when you aren't around people to sign with. I used it mainly in voluntary work. I did a fair bit of deaf-blind signing and would even translate phonecalls and such. I later started a BSL course but couldn't finish it due to uni commitments which was a shame but I learnt more going to a deaf club and just seeing a gentleman around who was deaf, he used to come in cafes I worked in and I'd see him round town and I learnt a lot more that way.

I remember so little of it now though, just basic stuff and some random ones!

[gness]

Eve..the swear words the children taught me will never fade!...☺

[Eve]

Haha :) I really should get back into it again.