Anyone Ever Tried This?

[Matheous-2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simply_Raw:_Reversing_Diabetes_in_30_Days

Are these claims just fads or hype? Or is there an element of possibility?

I have not watched the film, but will do a search on Netflix.....

[pixie373]

So you have to make a permanent change. It would surprise me if that didn't help the blood sugar levels. But you either have diabetes or you don't. They aren't claiming to cure it. Cutting out refined sugar would also "reverse" it.

[grasscarp]

This is not so new. My mother died over25 years ago. She was diabetic. I remember her telling me a story about this chap who was stranded somewhere for several days without food. When he was rescued eventually they found that although he had been a diabetic previously he no longer was. She found that very exciting news at the time that maybe diabetes could be cured.

[Matheous-2]

Pixie373 - you sound like it would be ok to use any of the variants of raw unrefined sugars? What do you feel about the 'hidden' sugars - sucrose, dextrose, aspartame etc.,?

[pixie373]

I would have to look that up, but fruit sugars never used to be considered a problem for diabetics. I'm only saying that it would help, it clearly can't be cured- and they aren't claiming to- people aren't able to do this diet and then go back to a "normal" diet. They are still diabetic.

[Matheous-2]

What if diabetic people stayed on a 'raw food' diet?

[Sqad]

Are we talking here Type1 diabetes or Type 2?

It doesn't matter, if the carbohydrates are cooked or not, the end result in a diabetic is the same.

Type1 cannot be cured by diet alone.

Type 2 can be cured by diet alone providing that you are willing to spend the rest of your life on 800Cals/day or less.

It is that simple.

[pixie373]

That's what i think too, sqad. But i don't agree type 2 is "cured". It is just under control -while you continue to control it.
I've only ever known 5 or 6 people who have been told they are diabetic and then are told they're not. But it was never described as "cured", just misdiagnosed in the first place.

[Sqad]

pixie...........if one is symptom free and not taking any medication and has settled into a lifestyle which maintains the status quo, .......then they are cured.

[slaney]

Interesting work from Newcastle suggests, as sqad says, that some cases of type 2 diabetes can be reversed with a low calorie diet - it will be interesting to see the results of a more extensive trial, as the original study involved less than 12 people, so early days yet.
Sqad, my understanding of it was that you didn't have to keep on a very low calorie diet for ever, but it was enough to keep your weight down below a certain level.
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

NB This kind of dieting should only be carried out under strict medical supervision.

[Sqad]

slaney....you may well be right.......keeping on a 800cal \day diet, would be difficult particularly if one is over 65years of age.

[sandyRoe]

Sorry for drifting away from the original question but could an adult survive on a diet of 800 calories a day?

[Sqad]

sandy....LOL...I would have thought so, if one dieted and played a round of golf everyday.
I couldn't...that's for sure.
As slaney points out it should only be done under strict medical supervision.

[woofgang]

There are some kinds of diabetic syndrome that do go of their own accord, I am talking post partum diabetes and post anaesthetic diabetes....

[Sqad]

woofy...I have heard of post partum diabetes, but never post anaesthetic diabetes.
Have you any more information?

[woofgang]

Sqad, I can't find any info anywhere, but I knew a lady who had it. I guess its quite rare. She had an op to repair a fractured femur, went under with no evidence of diabetes (yes she'd been screened, a urine dip only though IIRC) and post op, she quickly developed the symptoms of type 2 diabetes. She came to us (community hospital) for mobility rehab with it all written up in her notes and instructions to monitor her blood sugars and reduce the meds as her condition normalised, which it did.
This was around 15 years ago. Her notes said that it was a known but uncommon side effect of whatever anaesthetic had been used...I have no idea what the anaesthetic would have been.

[Sqad]

Right woofy.
Welcome back...;-)

[woofgang]

:-) least said Sqad.....

[pixie373]

I don't agree, sqad. It would be cured if you could go back to a normal lifestyle, and the symptoms stayed under control. That's a bit like saying, "I've cured my dog allergy. I just don't ever go near a dog". Not really cured, Imo.

[Sqad]

pixie...right.

[grasscarp]

Here is another type 2 diabetic who no longer needs medication after losing weight
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Quizzes-and-Puzzles/Question1310232.html