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No Ham Or Wine From Tescos During Ramadan.
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This was discussed at length on a late night radio phone in, and taking the usual 'don't criticise Muslims' attitude that most of these radio presenters seem to adhere to, he was trying to attach a similarity to the Bed & Breakfast owners, by accusing those who supported those owners (but who were at the same time criticising the Tesco worker) for possessing a double standard attitude.
He still could not understand the difference when some told him that the Bed & Breakfast couple owned their establishment, but the Tesco worker did not own his, and had he in fact owned his own shop he would be quite within his rights to refuse to serve a customer with whatever her chose to, no problem except for his own profits.
He still could not understand the difference when some told him that the Bed & Breakfast couple owned their establishment, but the Tesco worker did not own his, and had he in fact owned his own shop he would be quite within his rights to refuse to serve a customer with whatever her chose to, no problem except for his own profits.
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Perhaps...but the same cannot possibly be true of the Relate councillor who refused to deal with gay couples.
Or the Christian registrar who refused to carry out civil partnership ceremonies.
Should their religious convictions take precedent over their duties to their employees?
If the Muslim is wrong to use his religious convictions as a reason not to handle pork and alcohol, are these Christians?
If not, why not?
Perhaps...but the same cannot possibly be true of the Relate councillor who refused to deal with gay couples.
Or the Christian registrar who refused to carry out civil partnership ceremonies.
Should their religious convictions take precedent over their duties to their employees?
If the Muslim is wrong to use his religious convictions as a reason not to handle pork and alcohol, are these Christians?
If not, why not?
sp, but the man who refused to counsel gay couples was sacked and his appeal lost -
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- and the Christian registrar who was unhappy about performing ceremonies for gap couples had her appeal rejected.
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They can all try using their religious convictions as a reason not to do the job they're employed to do, but Muslims seem to be rather more successful at it.
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- and the Christian registrar who was unhappy about performing ceremonies for gap couples had her appeal rejected.
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They can all try using their religious convictions as a reason not to do the job they're employed to do, but Muslims seem to be rather more successful at it.
naomi24
My point is that they were rightly sacked - and so should this chap.
What is curious how (especially) the right wing press come out in support of Christian fundamentalists, when they use their faith as a reason to pick and choose what parts of their jobs they will do, but the tone goes 180 degrees for everyone else.
My point is that they were rightly sacked - and so should this chap.
What is curious how (especially) the right wing press come out in support of Christian fundamentalists, when they use their faith as a reason to pick and choose what parts of their jobs they will do, but the tone goes 180 degrees for everyone else.
naomi24
Both Tesco and M&S 'promotes an environment free from discrimination' which means that they observe workers' religious beliefs...for instance Christian employees are exempt from working on Sundays.
Therefore you're probably correct in that this chap will be able to cite religious observance in this instance.
Still - the Ramadan reason doesn't make sense.
Both Tesco and M&S 'promotes an environment free from discrimination' which means that they observe workers' religious beliefs...for instance Christian employees are exempt from working on Sundays.
Therefore you're probably correct in that this chap will be able to cite religious observance in this instance.
Still - the Ramadan reason doesn't make sense.
//Both Tesco and M&S 'promotes an environment free from discrimination' which means that they observe workers' religious beliefs...//
The government doesn't appear to promote such an environment - at least not for Christians.
I haven't got time to look right now, but I'd like to know if any Muslim has ever been sacked for refusing to do a job because of his/her religious foibles. I can't say any cases spring to mind, but if anyone knows differently, it would be interesting.
The government doesn't appear to promote such an environment - at least not for Christians.
I haven't got time to look right now, but I'd like to know if any Muslim has ever been sacked for refusing to do a job because of his/her religious foibles. I can't say any cases spring to mind, but if anyone knows differently, it would be interesting.
^ Quite. re the recent 'gay cake' nonsense. If that had been a muslim bakers instead of a christian one, they would never have been questioned or castigated for refusing to bake it.
In fact we would more likely have seen the people who wanted the cake on the wrong end of some kind of racist intimidation\hate crime\causing offence accusation.
In fact we would more likely have seen the people who wanted the cake on the wrong end of some kind of racist intimidation\hate crime\causing offence accusation.
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