Welfare Culture

[lindapalmara]

In a previous thread by Mikey, he made two statements. One was "Labour are popular all over Britain" and the other was "Labour which is setting the agenda for fairness,". The other day I read, and I think it was on the BBC Website (an organisation not known for its right wing views?), a comparison on two families claiming benefits. One family where the father worked but as they had a large family and an autistic child and all the children where home schooled had their income topped up with tax credits. The second family where neither parent worked, father unemployed for 14 years because his skills were not wanted, hadn't tried to retrain in all that time and his weekly expenditure included Sky TV, cigarettes, 24 cans of lager and large amount on mobile phones. How can creating more welfare dependency be a fairer society? As for Labour being popular all over Britain, of course there are voters for all parties in every constituency but that doesn't mean a particular party will get in.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16876486

[ToraToraTora]

fair mikey, fair? is it fair that many thousands live like leeches on those of us that work hard? If I went down the dole office I'd get nowt!

[mikey4444]

Linda...it is patently obvious that righties out-number lefties here on AB. That is not a complaint, as I am more than capable of fighting my corner. But an absence of posts from us lefties may be due to real reasons...I have been out to work for a couple of hours for instance.

And its perfectly possible to debate any issue here on AB ...as I am doing now, without calling you any names !

[mikey4444]

TTT...I was referring to the spare bedroom tax, not the hoards of lazy, feckless people, who irritate me as much as they irritate you !

[wolf63]

Tora - no.

I got Invalidity Benefit and now ESA in the support group.
I also get my civil service pension ~ 24 years and 33 days of paying out benefits!

I am lucky in that I don't rely on only benefits to survive.

Anyhow ~ must dash and spread some doom and gloom around the town!!



W☺lf

[ToraToraTora]

great, welcome to the human race!

[bazwillrun]

Answerprancer
"this section is riddled with the anti British left wing", no it isn't you ignoramus - to you, ANYONE who doesn't conform to your drooling knuckle-dragging fascistic views is a "leftie"

pretty clear who is the ignoramus...what a pathetic little person you are.

[mikey4444]

baz...read the disclaimer at the top of the page ::

" we understand that debates get heated but personal attacks and abusive language will not be tolerated!"

I think you should withdraw your remarks at 14:51.

[ToraToraTora]

well if you are going into refereeing mikey then AP's comments are also abusive.

[mikey4444]

I agree TTT, but baz was clearly well out of order. Perhaps they should both apologize and we can get on with our heated bur reasonable polite debate !

We two are far apart politically, although we sometimes meet in the middle over issues like Council Housing, but we (mostly) refrain from personal abuse I think ?

[naomi24]

This is like a schoolyard.

[lindapalmara]

Ok, bottom line is that no one on the "left" of politics has tried to defend the welfare policy that allows the long term unemployed to live the lifestyle mentioned in the original post. There was a reasoned discussion until the abuse started. Think I get the measure of this now.

[tamborine]

Seen 2 episodes of Judge Riddner with council tenants claiming rent arrears from sub tenants! Both cases lost, lol. Greedy landlords, pffft!

[sevenOP]

By 'Welfare Culture' do you mean the 2.6% of Welfare expenditure that was spend on the unemployed in 2011-2012?
http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/entry/mythbusters-strivers-versus-skivers

[Answerprancer]

"what a pathetic little person you are"
"Little"? Have you measured me? Bet I'm bigger n you!

[Obiter]

//"Little"? Have you measured me? Bet I'm bigger n you!//

Boasting again, AP?

[Answerprancer]

Oooh you're so awful ...but I like you!

[naomi24]

Linda, //"Labour which is setting the agenda for fairness,". //

I saw that from Mikey - and I don't understand it either. An explanation would be good.