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Should Ukip Be Represented At The Cenotaph?
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1. Despite having less than the required number of MPs in Parliament to qualify (which is six), should the organisers change the rules so that UKIP can lay a wreath at the Cenotaph during Remembrance Sunday?
Should there now be a ceasefire on publishing unflattering pictures of Nigel Farage? Note how in this shot, he seems to be morphing into one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles:
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1. Despite having less than the required number of MPs in Parliament to qualify (which is six), should the organisers change the rules so that UKIP can lay a wreath at the Cenotaph during Remembrance Sunday?
Should there now be a ceasefire on publishing unflattering pictures of Nigel Farage? Note how in this shot, he seems to be morphing into one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles:
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There will be another 100-year remembrance sunday in 2018.
I also can't see why anyone would think Farage is honest. He does, at least, have some policy differences to the major parties (which is easy when you're a small party), but he is just as guilty of spin and synthetic teflon-man politics as Miliband/Cameron. Seeming to be honest is not the same as being honest.
I also can't see why anyone would think Farage is honest. He does, at least, have some policy differences to the major parties (which is easy when you're a small party), but he is just as guilty of spin and synthetic teflon-man politics as Miliband/Cameron. Seeming to be honest is not the same as being honest.
divebuddy- I would argue that this thread did not degenerate into abuse aimed at Nigel. It started that way with my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles jibe right in the question.
Chilldoubt - I for one applaud your post from 20:31, because it's a valid point of view. One which I undersand, but do not empathise with, as I grew up in a very racially diverse area of South London.
My main issue with UKIP, is that (without meaning to) they have attracted support from members of the public whose views I vehemently disagree with, and who vocalise their views in a way that I can't ignore.
And of course there's the other more pertinent thing...
...I don't want the UK to leave Europe.
So like I mentioned before, and on other threads - the rise of UKIP is fantastic for British politics, because now, everyone can feel properly represented.
The only thing that would concern me, is if they won the next General Election. I would genuinely be concerned about a cabinet of brand new MPs taking over the management of foreign policy initiatives, the NHS, food and fisheries, education, the environment etc.
They would have support from the civil service, but you need ministers to develop strategy.
For me, it would be like being on a 747 over the mid Atlantic, sacking all the flight crew and asking Simon, a trading standards officer from East Sussex, sitting in seat 27E to take over the controls.
Chilldoubt - I for one applaud your post from 20:31, because it's a valid point of view. One which I undersand, but do not empathise with, as I grew up in a very racially diverse area of South London.
My main issue with UKIP, is that (without meaning to) they have attracted support from members of the public whose views I vehemently disagree with, and who vocalise their views in a way that I can't ignore.
And of course there's the other more pertinent thing...
...I don't want the UK to leave Europe.
So like I mentioned before, and on other threads - the rise of UKIP is fantastic for British politics, because now, everyone can feel properly represented.
The only thing that would concern me, is if they won the next General Election. I would genuinely be concerned about a cabinet of brand new MPs taking over the management of foreign policy initiatives, the NHS, food and fisheries, education, the environment etc.
They would have support from the civil service, but you need ministers to develop strategy.
For me, it would be like being on a 747 over the mid Atlantic, sacking all the flight crew and asking Simon, a trading standards officer from East Sussex, sitting in seat 27E to take over the controls.
Well, they've got to start somewhere sp.
And it's not as if the current lot nor those before them have done a fantastic job, have they?
I always remember Gordon Brown being lauded as one of the greatest chancellor's this country had (supposedly) ever seen and look how that turned out?
The 'established' parties have had their chance and largely failed so it's difficult to see how someone new can make it any much worse, but with certain policies have a darn sight of making things better.
I mean, look at the Lib Dems? They're part of a coalition government yet are seen to be almost defunct! Their leader killed off his party and any credibility with his much ridiculed and parodied 'I'm sorry' statement over student loans, so how Kromo can single out Farage over 'honesty' is a tad galling.
And it's not as if the current lot nor those before them have done a fantastic job, have they?
I always remember Gordon Brown being lauded as one of the greatest chancellor's this country had (supposedly) ever seen and look how that turned out?
The 'established' parties have had their chance and largely failed so it's difficult to see how someone new can make it any much worse, but with certain policies have a darn sight of making things better.
I mean, look at the Lib Dems? They're part of a coalition government yet are seen to be almost defunct! Their leader killed off his party and any credibility with his much ridiculed and parodied 'I'm sorry' statement over student loans, so how Kromo can single out Farage over 'honesty' is a tad galling.
By the way - did you know that oxygen masks only provide oxygen for 20 minutes?
They're only designed to keep you alive until the plane descends to a predetermined altitude.
So when they say, 'ensure your child's oxygen mask is securely fastened before putting on your own', you might want to work out who has the bigger lungs - you or a six year old.
They're only designed to keep you alive until the plane descends to a predetermined altitude.
So when they say, 'ensure your child's oxygen mask is securely fastened before putting on your own', you might want to work out who has the bigger lungs - you or a six year old.
@sp1814
They ought to be called the UK Infinite Publicity party. They have garnered staggering amounts of airtime (amusingly, the Beeb is having to make amends and give Caroline Lucas a few free goes).
I'm glad this thread links to their other policies. I only wish I could be arsed to read up on them.
Are you paid to boost their PR profile or wad this whole thread an inadvertent promotion of their cause? (you could have let that story quietly escape my/our attention, for instance)
Otherwise:
1) No but they'll wangle it somehow -and- find a way to get other. tinpot, one-seat parties bundled into the exclusion clauses.
2) No. The photographers can't help it if they keep capturing the reality of the man. Perhaps he should confine the facial gymnastics to the privacy of his own bridge arch, errrm home, I mean.
;)
They ought to be called the UK Infinite Publicity party. They have garnered staggering amounts of airtime (amusingly, the Beeb is having to make amends and give Caroline Lucas a few free goes).
I'm glad this thread links to their other policies. I only wish I could be arsed to read up on them.
Are you paid to boost their PR profile or wad this whole thread an inadvertent promotion of their cause? (you could have let that story quietly escape my/our attention, for instance)
Otherwise:
1) No but they'll wangle it somehow -and- find a way to get other. tinpot, one-seat parties bundled into the exclusion clauses.
2) No. The photographers can't help it if they keep capturing the reality of the man. Perhaps he should confine the facial gymnastics to the privacy of his own bridge arch, errrm home, I mean.
;)
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