Raw Veg & Dogs...

[Chipchopper]

My dog is always on the lookout for scraps from the kitchen, broccoli, cabbage leaf stalks, carrot, squash etc.
Are these things good for him, in moderation ?

My second question is, is there any absolute no no's ?

[woofgang]

The grape thing is like chocolate in that the amount to do damage varies considerably from dog to dog. I too used to share grapes with my old girl and it never hurt her but I wouldn't risk it now.

LB I have seen advice to raw feeders to freeze the meat before feeding as that will reduce the bacterial load if not remove it entirely.

[jourdain2]

Just don't feed them raisins, currants etc.. I also avoid spuds, but bits of the rest of the veg scraps go down well.

[ladybirder]

Oh that's interesting, thanks Woofg. I do freeze it so at least I'm doing something right.

[RATTER15]

Ladybirder, if the meat has been frozen then don't worry, by the way our hounds eat frozen chicken without batting an eyelid, they love it and it doesn't cause any problems at all, perfectly safe.

We have doggy friends all over the world that feed raw, very often they throw their hounds a leg of mousse or buffalo out into the yard, the hounds will feed off it and then bury it for a week and often the meat is rank when they finish it, never a problem for them as that is the way dogs digestive systems were designed. A heaving mass of maggot ridden flesh just adds tenderness and flavour.

[woofgang]

chocolate or vanilla mousse Ratter, lol?

In the US the nasty disease called Alabama Rot in greyhounds has been linked with the feeding of rotting raw meat so its not something I would suggest as good practice.

[ladybirder]

Oh YUK, do you ever wish you'd never asked the question in the first place.
But thank you anyway. I shall continue with the frozen chicken as he loves it. x

[woofgang]

LB, the sort of meat that was fed to the greyhounds who got Alabama Rot is not something you see in the UK unless you work for public health lol.

[RATTER15]

Woofgang, moose moose moose lol, Ok a bit of Alabama rot in my head I think!

No it isnt something I would do myself but I know a few that do and the fact that it is in greyhounds does suggest a problem with human interference in the process is causing the problem rather than the feeding of the meat as is.

[RATTER15]

Woofgang, so the rotten food theory is just a theory as they don't actually know.

"While no exact cause is known, water/food related cause, or bad water or food that would make the dog sick, have been ruled out. Some veterinary experts theorize it is a parasite, others theorize it is a bacteria. It is more widely believed that Alabama rot is caused by toxins produced by E. coli. Because the exact cause has not been found, a vaccine is next to impossible to develop. The cause of Alabama rot is under study as of 2014"
http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_rot#Causes

[woofgang]

That's why I only said has been linked Ratter. I gather from what I have read that there weren't well loved, carefully cared for dogs, albeit outdoors dogs, but dogs who were kept in filth and fed carrion.