Are They Risking, And In Some Cases Losing, Their Lives Simple So That They Can Come And Enjoy A Life On The Dole?

[sandyRoe]

Or could it be that the conditions they're fleeing are so bad that they're prepared to gamble their all for the chance to improve it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34082304

[dannyk13]

I would think that the majority are in the second category.

[-Talbot-]

You may as well stick this story in with the OP
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34083337

[Old_Geezer]

If they stayed in the first safe country they came to, then we could suspect the latter. Since a fair old number seem to want to just keep improving their lot regardless of what the intended country of settlement needs, then we must assume they are with the former intent.

In either case a country's conditions don't improve if all decent folk desert it rather than work to steer their own country right. That simply ensures the country becomes a net exporter of surplus population who wish to further overcrowd other countries that try to be stable, with viable economies, and sufficient resource for those there.

[ToraToraTora]

it does not matter, we cannot take them all, simples.

[bazwillrun]

when will people get it..the vast majority come here because they have heard its the land of milk and honey, they dont have to integrate they dont have to learn the language, they can basically live as if they were back from whence they came, they can within reason do what they like here.

they dont have to respect our culture our country or anything about us, just put out their hands and recieve, recieve recieve...they can hate us, they can plot against us, they can basically do what they want, undermine our country its identity and its history etc etc... all by just being here....

and theres plenty of handwringers who seem to think thats ok...shame on them

[Svejk]

I agree with OG and TTT. And I'd add that a lot of the blame for these tragedies can be laid at the door of the 'pro-immigration' brigade.
If, say, AOG was in charge of European immigration, this crisis wouldn't be occurring.

[anotheoldgit]

Interesting to note that 107,00 are Syrians perhaps leaving because of the war, but there are 136,000 from other countries, Pakistan and Kosovo included.

[bednobs]

i don't think that people back in the "home" countires ever get to find out that the boat has sunk, or their loved one is suffocated to death in a lorry - so it doesn't put people off, simply because theyon't know or hear about it.

[sandyRoe]

They'd know something was wrong when their loved ones didn't get in contact. Not the exact details, which is probably just as well, but that something terrible had befallen them.
The refugees, Syrians in particular, are between the twin devils of Assad(with his barrel bombs and poison gas attacks) and ISIS (with their mad interpretation of Islam) and the deep blue sea. God help them.

[maggiebee]

Many and sharp the num'rous ills
Inwoven with our frame!
More pointed still we make ourselves
Regret, remorse, and shame!
And man, whose heav'n-erected face
The smiles of love adorn, –
Man's inhumanity to man
Makes countless thousands mourn!

(Rabbie Burns)

[mikey4444]

Sandy...well said at 11:43. If I had a young family and lived in Syria, I would be getting out of that war-torn hell hole as quick as I could, and I challenge any other family man on here to say different.

These people are terrified. Assad's father was a cruel, bloodthirsty dictator, who murdered his own countrymen, and its all happening again.

[-Talbot-]

I thought a family man was someone who had settled down and had children?

Isn't it estimated that 66% are not from war-torn anywhere?

[bednobs]

i disagree that the families would know something had befallen their loved one - how could they? Once they say goodbye, even if the outcome was good, how would the loved one let them know?

[SirOracle]

Mobile phones.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// If I had a young family and lived in Syria, I would be getting out of that war-torn hell hole as quick as I could, and I challenge any other family man on here to say different. ///

Well I don't know about you but I wouldn't risk the lives of my family crossing a sea in an unseaworthy vessel, I would choose to go South and settle in another African country, that more suited my religion, culture, customs and heritage.