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A New Nativity.
When all those long, long years ago a child came down to earth below,
To save the likes of you and me from evil, harm and misery,
Do you suppose that even then, there were some doubting, heedless men
Who, rather than believe the word, just turned their backs and never heard?
You see, today we all recall, the baby in the ox's stall.
The ass, the stables, shepherds, Kings, - all ancient, rural, rustic things.
But what if, here, this very night, it happened....on the Isle of Wight
Would we rejoice and all be merry? Would we dash off and catch the ferry?
If Christ was born in Walthamstow, would builders drop their tools and go?
Would Wapping printers stop their presses? Would supermodels ditch their dresses?
In Dundee and in rural Kent, would shepherds, by an angel sent
Walk miles to see a newborn child, whose mother, unmarried, although mild
Had given birth to a baby boy, not at the Dorchester or Savoy,
But in a garage, there's the rub, round the back of the local pub.
And yet I like to think that we, despite the e-mail and DVD
Would know to go, when star shone bright, and make that journey through the night
To see the child who saves the world, in some old oil drum safely curled.
The nativity for this century. Would anyone out there like to come?
When all those long, long years ago a child came down to earth below,
To save the likes of you and me from evil, harm and misery,
Do you suppose that even then, there were some doubting, heedless men
Who, rather than believe the word, just turned their backs and never heard?
You see, today we all recall, the baby in the ox's stall.
The ass, the stables, shepherds, Kings, - all ancient, rural, rustic things.
But what if, here, this very night, it happened....on the Isle of Wight
Would we rejoice and all be merry? Would we dash off and catch the ferry?
If Christ was born in Walthamstow, would builders drop their tools and go?
Would Wapping printers stop their presses? Would supermodels ditch their dresses?
In Dundee and in rural Kent, would shepherds, by an angel sent
Walk miles to see a newborn child, whose mother, unmarried, although mild
Had given birth to a baby boy, not at the Dorchester or Savoy,
But in a garage, there's the rub, round the back of the local pub.
And yet I like to think that we, despite the e-mail and DVD
Would know to go, when star shone bright, and make that journey through the night
To see the child who saves the world, in some old oil drum safely curled.
The nativity for this century. Would anyone out there like to come?
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>>>If Christ was born in Walthamstow, would builders drop their tools and go?
Would Wapping printers stop their presses? Would supermodels ditch their dresses?
In Dundee and in rural Kent, would shepherds, by an angel sent
Walk miles to see a newborn child, whose mother, unmarried, although mild
Had given birth to a baby boy, not at the Dorchester or Savoy,
But in a garage, there's the rub, round the back of the local pub.
And yet I like to think that we, despite the e-mail and DVD
Would know to go, when star shone bright, and make that journey through the night <<<
No chance, these days we wouldnt believe in such nonsense.
Would Wapping printers stop their presses? Would supermodels ditch their dresses?
In Dundee and in rural Kent, would shepherds, by an angel sent
Walk miles to see a newborn child, whose mother, unmarried, although mild
Had given birth to a baby boy, not at the Dorchester or Savoy,
But in a garage, there's the rub, round the back of the local pub.
And yet I like to think that we, despite the e-mail and DVD
Would know to go, when star shone bright, and make that journey through the night <<<
No chance, these days we wouldnt believe in such nonsense.
Sandy, the inaccurate stories that people are taught to believe were designed specifically to tug mercilessly at the heartstrings - just as your video is - and they succeed. It is nothing short of emotional blackmail. Funny how the founders (Jesus being an 'alleged' founder) of religion are often endowed with poverty and hardship. Mohammed was an illiterate orphan you know.
naomi is right, as usual. The stable, the ox and the ass are Church inventions. All that the "Luke" version says is that there was no room at the inn and that the baby was laid in a manger. To assume that this manger was in a cold stable is unreasonable, not only showing extreme callousness on the part of the people around there but also an ignorance of the fact that domestic animals often shared the same premises as the family. Wherever the manger came from the sensible assumption is that it finished indoors with proper warm linen.
Also as naomi says, the contradictory "Matthew" version has Mary and Joseph living in Bethleham, hence no need for a journey and an inn and no mention of a census. In other words, a perfectly normal birth at home - plainly not sentimental enough for the Church, which is why you'll hear no mention of this versioon at Christmas.
Also as naomi says, the contradictory "Matthew" version has Mary and Joseph living in Bethleham, hence no need for a journey and an inn and no mention of a census. In other words, a perfectly normal birth at home - plainly not sentimental enough for the Church, which is why you'll hear no mention of this versioon at Christmas.
Interesting that they would appeal to our innate sense of compassion, empathy, and moral indignation, the very same virtues we are condemned for our lack of, in instigating their emotional blackmail in an attempt to have us nail ourselves by virtue of an unearned guilt to a cross of our own devising as punishment for a crime we did not commit.
I often wonder what sort of imagined past transgressions would lead someone to fall for this kind of emotional blackmail for the 'sin' of having been born human, as an alleged God created us in His own image. You've been condemned for your inability to fly after having allowed them to clip your wings.
I often wonder what sort of imagined past transgressions would lead someone to fall for this kind of emotional blackmail for the 'sin' of having been born human, as an alleged God created us in His own image. You've been condemned for your inability to fly after having allowed them to clip your wings.
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