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sandyRoe | 14:19 Sat 05th Jan 2019 | Body & Soul
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Apart from a flight to Geneva hoe best might a chap make his quietus?
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Dorothy Parker's advice still sound pertinent to me Razors pain you; Rivers are damp; Acids stain you; And drugs cause cramp. Guns aren’t lawful; Nooses give; Gas smells awful; You might as well live.
14:26 Sat 05th Jan 2019
old age>?
Hello Sandy , I'm not sure it's wholly fair to ask us.

Are you OK?

Need to have a natter?
Accident, old age, illness.
Dorothy Parker's advice still sound pertinent to me

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.
Sandy, what's made you ask this question?
How about don't?
My perfect exit would be in a very small boat far out at sea with a couple of grenades. No mess, no boat, fish fed. Sorted.
Find someone to bore you to death.
Answerbank is seldom fatal, LadyCG
sandy, man of travels, what's not right in your life right now. how is your health?
Clearly a sensitive topic. When a long-term user of this site posts such a delicate question, other members of the community will have many concerns, and will take appropriate action (as seen above).

Nevertheless the question has been asked., and this site is set up to provide answers.

The Dignitas clinic is in Forch, Switzerland. A short bus ride from Zurich.

There is another clinic offering similar services, called 'Eternal Spirit'

http://www.dignitas.ch/

https://www.lifecircle.ch/?l=en

Dignitas has a lot of advice on its site about making a dignifed exit. The costs are quite high - think £10,000.

This article is a useful resource:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/the-true-cost-how-the-uk-outsources-death-to-dignitas-a8073401.html

To summarise the article, it is painful for those left behind, as there is a great deal of administration to go through in Switzerland to prove there was no wrongdoing, and few bring the body home, as the UK authorities may wish to take an interest in an unnatural death.

The near-unanimous option is a cremation in Switzerland. That, too may not be the preferred option for family and friends.

Even so, some returning family members have been questioned by Police over an unnatural death. It is currently illegal in the UK to assist someone to die.

Another factor is that one must have reasonable health before attempting the journey to Switzerland. This suggests that the journey must be undertaken before the end is in sight, and may rob family and friends of precious time with the patient while he/she is still (relatively) healthy.

if anyone is thinking about that option, the Dignitas site as good a first step as any.

The article from the Independent also suggests that the process is far from satisfactory for those left behind. However, despite the drawbacks, most surviving relatives say the experience was less negative than the alternatives - which (in my opinion) says something very negative about the end-of-life experience in the UK.
sandy, sorry I'm not being flippant. What's happening i. your life x
Just remember, not about the people you'll leave behind, but the ones that find you, it effs their head up.
sandy, you come across on here as a very lovely man, not many of them about.
IJKLM...Sandy did say "apart from".

Sandy, I do hope you are ok, and this is not about you or anyone near and dear.
Sandy, from the way your question is worded, I fear you may be asking for yourself.
I apologise if not.
Please come back and chat x
Thank you, Pasta for pointing that out. Anyone discussing this desperately delicate subject on a public forum has to be a little careful.

Helping someone to die is a criminal offence in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Those convicted could face up to 14 years in prison.

Giving a direct answer to the original question opens one up to a world of negative possibilities relating to potential criminal charges.

https://www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dying/the-law/

Both my parents are elderly. They are both alive, but within the family, we have discussed their wishes and choices in various different scenarios, and looked at a range of medical and legal options.

It may sound morbid, but all the advice suggests it is a helpful thing to do, and eases the emotional pain in the days and hours before death.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1495357/

Those options include, but are not limited to going to Switzerland. As I suggested, the Dignitas site offers some avenues for personal research into managing the end in as dignified and pain-free way as possible .

To go any further into this area risks breaking the law, and I do not intend to endanger this site (or myself) by posting something illegal - especially with regard to such a sensitive subject matter.

While the original question sought advice for something that would be highly illegal, my response was designed to be as helpful as it is possible to be within the law, from someone who has held those discussions within a caring, loving family environment.
Sandy - are you and the black dog currently living together?

If so you have my deepest sympathy. It is a horrible place to be - it is beyond description to explain what it is like.

Keep in touch, talking does help.
This question from Sandy might be relevant.

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Body-and-Soul/Question1638663.html

I'm very fond of your travel threads, he nice to read more. . Take care .

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