F O A Theland

[nailit]

Theland,
You have often been accused of NOT answering questions put to you. Equally you have responded that you HAVE, either directly or by a link, (usually a youtube link).

Given your recent posts on other threads re genders: I would like to give you the chance to clear up any misunderstandings regarding your views on homosexuality without any animosity from other ABers. (Other ABers take note, this is for Theland only...its not an attack on him or his beliefs)

There are 2 genders? Its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve right?
The Old Testament orders the death of homosexuals. St Paul in the New Testament says that homosexuals are worthy of death. Revelations says that homosexuals will burn for eternity.
You have an homosexual child...how does this sit with your beliefs as an evangelical Christian?

Take this question as you will but I ask it out of genuine curiosity given your (published) beliefs about gender.
Thanks.

[Theland]

Guests at the moment.
Get back to you.
Thanks for this challenging question.

[nailit]

Theland,
Enjoy ur company.
Honestly not meant as a 'challenge' in any way.
Speak later.

[choux]

nailit
1) This is a public site so you don't have the right to tell us not to enter into any thread.
2) I think you come over as a litte aggressive rather than genuinely curious.
3) You say that Theland has "admitted" his son is homosexual. If you are referring to his post at 22:17
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Religion-and-Spirituality/Question1631786-2.html
I cannot see that Theland has "admitted" anything of the sort. He merely stated the fact.
4) For your ease of reference, Theland also wrote in that same reply
"I do not have answers, only the offer of love which conquers all.
I cannot expand on this, I do not have answers.
Please be understanding."
5) Maybe, just maybe, it was Adam and St. Eve.

[nailit]

Choux, Im sure that Theland can answer for himself thanks.
(and the OP was directed at him and not yourself)

[nailit]

I wouldnt appreciate it if anyone else answered on my behalf and Im sure that Theland wouldn't appreciate YOU

[choux]

As I said - public site.

[nailit]

answering on HIS behalf.

[nailit]

//As I said - public site.//
OK, carry on then answering for someone else if it makes you feel good.
Personally Ill wait for Theland.

[choux]

I haven't answered on anyone's behalf but my own, nailit.

The Q's and A's are available for all to access and read and that is just what I have done.

[choux]

While you are waiting you could arrange a throw-away email address so that you can continue this in private with Theland. Howzat ? :)

[nailit]

//While you are waiting you could arrange a throw-away email address so that you can continue this in private with Theland. Howzat ? :) //

Cool by me, see what Theland thinks eh?

[Theland]

Nailit - This may come as a shock to you, but that very lengthy and complicated book, the Bible, is all summed up in two sentences from Jesus Himself.

"Love God, Love each other. This is the law and the prophets."

Simple is t it?

Love conquers all.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Nailit - This may come as a shock to you, but that very lengthy and complicated book, the Bible, is all summed up in two sentences from Jesus Himself.

"Love God, Love each other. This is the law and the prophets."

Simple is t it?

Love conquers all. //

It is simple, but clearly, you don't actually believe it.

Last night, on the thread about Islamophobia, you had this to say -

// I don't trust them.
We are witnessing the demise of our white tribe.
Ethnicide. //

I have no issue whatever with you believing in your God, and that he loves everyone, and so should we, but honestly, you need to literally practice what you preach, and frequently on here, you do no such thing.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - and on the same thread earlier on today -

// Andy, you are a very shallow man, and that is not abuse, just simple observation based on the experiences of reading your desperate posts.
Desperate to promote yourself at my expense.
Why not give it a rest mate? Take a chill pill? //

Not much 'love' there from you is there!!!

I have been accused of singling you out for 'attack', when I can assure you that I do not.

My track records stands as evidence that I will jump on cant, hypocrisy and hostility each and every time I find it, without fear or favour.

The reason why I appear to be levelling my responses about cant hypocrisy and hostility more against you than virtually any other AB'er is simple -

You are guilty of providing each of those singularly non-Christian approaches on this site on an almost daily basis.

I will stand up to each and every hostile response I get from anyone at every time - but I will also call out those who say one thing, do another, and can be nasty and personally vindictive doing it.

Better read your Bible a little more closely, its messages are clearly not reaching you in the way you always say they should reach the rest of us.

[Theland]

Andy - BS - This nation has shown love to these savages and got bombs in return.

What is your point apart from taking a cheap shot to make yourself feel superior?

[Theland]

Andy - You know nothing about the Bible, and are just a very loud nuisance.
Take a break.

[nailit]

Theland, I was rather hoping to keep this tread simple buy hey ho!
Back to the OP...
//"Love God, Love each other. This is the law and the prophets."//
Both the Law and the Prophets (and indeed the New Testament writers) considered homosexuality an unforgivable abomination.
How does this sit with you? Are you comfortable with this?
No hidden agenda here, Im genuinely curious as to how you fit this biblical view into your own life and your belief in sin and punishment?
Is homosexuality punished? And what about transgender people etc?

[nailit]

//Andy - You know nothing about the Bible, and are just a very loud nuisance.
Take a break.//
Why the animosity towards someone who is basically asking the same as me?

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy - BS - This nation has shown love to these savages and got bombs in return. //

Oh dear, your Christian love really is in short supply isn't it!!!!

I don't call invading a country showing it 'love' and I don't think you can group an entire religion as 'savages' and still take the moral high ground as a devout Christian.

// What is your point apart from taking a cheap shot to make yourself feel superior? //

It's not a 'shot' and it's certainly not 'cheap' and I don't have to argue with you to make myself feel superior!!!

My point is very simple - you talk about love, and how we should all love each other, and you constantly demonstrate that you are utterly incapable of living up to even the basic tenents of your faith.

If tolerance and a desire for understanding of others who live differently from me is to be a Christian, then I am a better Christian than you on a bad day!!

That is my point - but I think you know that, and prefer to be rude to me rather than addressing your shortcomings, as you usually do.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy - You know nothing about the Bible, and are just a very loud nuisance. //

As an atheist, I have never claimed to know anything about the Bible, but I do know how to debate without being personal and offensive - Christian traits which again you appear to lack.

// Take a break. //

No thanks, I'd rather try and get a straight answer out of you - harder than passing a camel through the eye of a needle (you see, I do know something of the Bible!!!) - but I do love a challenge!!!!