F O A Theland

[nailit]

Theland,
You have often been accused of NOT answering questions put to you. Equally you have responded that you HAVE, either directly or by a link, (usually a youtube link).

Given your recent posts on other threads re genders: I would like to give you the chance to clear up any misunderstandings regarding your views on homosexuality without any animosity from other ABers. (Other ABers take note, this is for Theland only...its not an attack on him or his beliefs)

There are 2 genders? Its Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve right?
The Old Testament orders the death of homosexuals. St Paul in the New Testament says that homosexuals are worthy of death. Revelations says that homosexuals will burn for eternity.
You have an homosexual child...how does this sit with your beliefs as an evangelical Christian?

Take this question as you will but I ask it out of genuine curiosity given your (published) beliefs about gender.
Thanks.

[Theland]

The New Testament, that is, the New Covenant, does not call for the death of homosexuals.

[Theland]

Nailit - As far as I am concerned there are only two genders, XX and XY.

Any body identifying as something else is in need of psychological counselling. As do transsexuals.
That is my opinion.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Any body identifying as something else is in need of psychological counselling. As do transsexuals.
That is my opinion. //

There goes that good ol' fundamental Christian love and tolerance right there!!

[spathiphyllum]

Is this not discrimination against a sexuality?

[spathiphyllum]

It is certanly against the Site Rules to call transgender people "Freaks".

[dannyk13]

Spath //It is certanly against the Site Rules to call transgender people "Freaks"//
Only if that comment is made towards an AB member.

[spathiphyllum]

Is it not like racism though, where regardless where it's aimed, it's not really allowed?

[dannyk13]

Spath, Site Rules apply to AB members, not to the general population.

[nailit]

//As far as I am concerned there are only two genders, XX and XY//
(As per Adam and Eve presumably)
And how many sexualities?
Just the biblical one (heterosexual)? Or are there more? (heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, pedosexual, etc.
Which ones are acceptable and which ones are freaks?
Just how do you determine who is acceptable of *unconditional love* and who to judge as a freak?

[AuntPollyGrey]

Do you know what That's the simplest question there is. If you believe in the Christian god then a man was given a penis and a woman a vagina. When the woman reaches puberty and produces eggs then the man enters the woman blah blah we know the rest. Anything other than this is abnormal. Man on Man woman on woman adult on child and all the perversions in between are not 'normal' End of. They may be acceptable in modern society but they are not 'Normal'

[nailit]

//Anything other than this is abnormal//
If you know anything about zoology then you would know this to be erroneous. There is over 600 animals (that we have so far observed) that display homosexual behaviour.
Sexuality is not black and white. Penis and vagina!
And human sexuality is even more complex...research Alfred Kinsey's work.

[nailit]

What IS peculiar to humans is out tendancy to attribute 'freakish' behaviour to those that share a different sexuality to our own.

[AuntPollyGrey]

If you say so Nailit. My opinion is anything other than heterosexual relationships are 'abnormal'. Doesn't bother me what people do in their private life other than if it involves children or is not consensual, but I refuse to normalise it because it isn't.

[nailit]

//My opinion is anything other than heterosexual relationships are 'abnormal'.//
Good job that your 'opinion' doesn't really count for much then.

[Theland]

What am I ? A sexologist?
Andy is Showing his us us bring pride again.

[Theland]

What is your problem Nailit?
You certainly have one.

[nailit]

//What am I ? A sexologist?//
Nah! But you are a human being Theland.
A human being who obviously loves his son despite his lifestyle been different from yours.
That's a human value, not a Christian value.
You know as well as I do that the bible condemns homosexuals.
You retain human values....respect!!

[nailit]

//What is your problem Nailit?
You certainly have one//

I have many. Its part of been human ;-)

[AuntPollyGrey]

Nailit my opinion counts just as much as yours. Its an opinion, for discussion, derision, or all things in between. Your opinion has no more value than mine. I can accept your opinion is very different from mine without being offensive or derisive. Your inability to reciprocate says more about you than me.

[nailit]

//Your inability to reciprocate says more about you than me//
And just where have I shown an inability to reciprocate?
Crack on with your opinions...no skin of my nose!