Stone In The Bile Duct

[granny grump]

My husband has been troubled with pain for the last 5 or 6 weeks which he dismissed as trapped wind or indigestion.On Thursday he was doubled over with pain and after calling 111 he was taken off in an ambulance. He was treated with intravenous paracetamol for the pain and today he finally had an MRI. They think that he has a stone in his bile duct and is having an endoscopy tomorrow. Can any one tell me what could cause this; what the recovery is like after the endoscopy and what sort of diet should be follow when he gets home? Thank you

[jno]

there might be something of interest in this

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/endoscopy/

[emmie]

i had this, it was incredibly painful, surgery was the only option for me, as they said i had to have my gall bladder removed, which they did, i was in hospital for over 5 days. A endoscopy is pretty pain free and if he has sedation the option i had, it takes a day to get over - he should have someone with him on the day, to take him home to make sure nothing untowards happens. light food stuffs, i found i could eat normally after a few days,

[murraymints]

dad had this...micro surgery to remove ..the hospital dietician will give you advice re diet and information sheets regarding food to avoid etc..

[emmie]

they got me out of bed next day from having surgery, which was bloody painful, but the nurse said it was necessary, to aid my recovery

[emmie]

its what i had key hole surgery,

[DTCwordfan]

gall bladder - will have to come out at some point..it's normally in and out the same day as it's done by keyhole surgery now. They say the attacks are worse than childbirth...they know this as 2/3rds of all surgery is on women and I guess there is nothing productive about it unlike childbirth. It all comes down to the 5Fs, 'Female, Over Forty, Fat, Fair and Freckled'. Late fertility also is a 6th one as the hormone change isn't conducive to the gall bladder wellness. Dieting is the biggest cause - in being too aggressive or a shock where you suddenly lose weight. The adage of no more than a kg a week really does have some basis to it.

I was in overnight, everything having been delayed by the first man in, who I actually knew - and his gall bladder had gone bang so that was a major clean-up job. How they let it get into that state, who knows, as the scan showed mine up so clearly that you could count the crystals in there - so they must have known that his gall bladder was close to bursting.

I'm surprised that they are giving him an endoscope in the first instance - one of those pregnancy scanners with the blue gel more than suffices.

[Peter Pedant]

// i had this, it was incredibly painful, surgery was the only option for me, as they said i had to have my gall bladder removed,//
and I screamed and screamed and all the doctors did was laugh at me
WELL!
a variety of responses and a to be expected - some good and some - - - absolute carp

this technique is well tried, works well, and has as ever a failure rate - see screamer - It is done under sedation, and the radiologist operator will explain all this, and then if poss nick the bottom end of the bile duct and out pops the stone

recovery is good and is MUCH better than gall bladder surgery.
Pain score for this procedure is much much lower than gall bladder
Diet - not sure about that one

worry not

meanwhile other ABers scream ......

[emmie]

what the hell are you on PP

[Peter Pedant]

I am on a full dose of
lets not be VERY silly and scare the carp out of a patient to be with silly stories of needs unfulfilled

Let us instead dwell on the very good results - lack of pain - and efficiency of the procedure which has been tried on many people before hand

THAT is what I am on Emmie - please bear it in mind
thank you

[bednobs]

the endoscopy will be an ERCP. If they can remove the stone they will. Recovery is minimal.

[Kathyan]

I must have been the exception to the rule then DTC. I was 31 when I had my gall bladder out due to gall stones, or should I say gall stone. The size of a bird's egg!

[Sqad]

bednobs 08.29 says it all in a succinct way that is all that is necessary.
Body and Soul has just become a medical CB.

[anneasquith]

Fair, Fat, Forty, Fertile and Female .

[granny grump]

Thank you all for your comments The endoscopy didn't go ahead today it has been put off until Thursday. He has already had his gall bladder out which was a bit of a disaster. They couldn't do it via key hole as it had become attached to his liver so you can understand why I am worried. He was in a heck of a state so hopefully it will be a bit more straightforward this time fingers crossed. Thank you again

[granny grump]

anneasquith he is in 3 out of five of those categories

[Sqad]

granny, im, a bit confused following your latest post.
Did he have his gall bladder removed previously OR did he have it removed in the last 24 hours.
If the latter, then the stone would have been removed at the same,e time as his gall bladder and hence would not need an endoscopy this week

[granny grump]

No Squad he had the gall bladder removed about 4 years ago

[Sqad]

O.K I understand now.?.......I think.
So thistle, they just removed the stone via keyhole approach?
Sorry I am a bit slow.

[granny grump]

No they couldn't remove the gall bladder via key hole because of complications so he had to have surgery which led to an infection and a long recovery period. That's why I am hoping that they can remove the stone in the bile duct on Thursday via the endoscopy otherwise he will have to have surgery at a later date

[Sqad]

Thanks for the feedback.