Thinking About It.

[teacake44]

Had my NHS number come for my jab, and to book. Well I can't make my mind up. Why, because its only the UK who have decided to stretch the second dose past three weeks, and Pfizer have not commented on that decision ???

[teacake44]

Marg If you just see this as a rant, that's fine. I don't, I see it as a very important decision. You've made your decision and that's fine. Now leave me to make mine in my own time, and with more info if I can get it. OK?

[THECORBYLOON]

"If the government follow the instructions provided by Pfizer by giving the second dose within three weeks there's less chance that anyone will end up in ICU."

What about those who could have had the jag under the new process and gained some protection from the symptoms? Going back to the three-week gap would mean a large number with no protection who could end up in ICU.

[burlyshirley]

I had the Pfizer jab last Thursday and while I would be happier having the second one in three weeks time, I am prepared to wait until April if it means more people can be given the vaccine in the meantime. I am at least partly protected now and that gives me a lot of satisfaction.

[teacake44]

Could is a mighty big word TCL all the more reason to do the job right in the first place. And have we not already got large numbers in ICU, another good reason to do the job right.
We had large numbers of PPE delivered to this country costing billions, a lot that has been dumped, the rest laying on the docks in containers that won't be used because of bad decisions. So now may be you get an idea of my thinking that the vaccine decision may be a bad idea.

[woofgang]

Your choice and decision and if you choose to refuse that bumps me up the queue so I have no idea why I am putting forward pro vac arguments to you :)

so I think you are absolutely right to decide to refuse the vaccine ;)

[douglas9401]

Do what you need to do, teacake, those of us who are keen to be punctured will join in with Project Great British Compromise and take both doses as and when they're available.

[New Judge]

There are only two scenarios you need consider, tc:

1. That the vaccination actually harms you, or...

2. That you believe the first dose offers no protection at all unless the second is administered (whenever that might be).

[New Judge]

And I meant to go on, if (1) then don't have it because you don't want to put yourself in peril. If (2) then don't have it because you will believe you are wasting your time. Leave your dose for somebody who wants it.

If you believe it offers protection, however little or short lasting, then go for it unless you are so busy you cannot afford the time.

[THECORBYLOON]

TC you said, "there's less chance that anyone will end up in ICU." but you cannot be certain about the number who would be in ICU because "their" jags had been given to those with a three week gap.

[THECORBYLOON]

"And have we not already got large numbers in ICU, another good reason to do the job right"

Why not give a single dose to ten million to reduce the symptoms, thereby reducing the risk of their needing treatment in ICU, rather than only five million having ten million jags between them?

[Ellipsis]

I understand your concern, but it is the way it is. You only have two options: to accept or not the vaccine on offer to you.

[shoota]

I had my (Pfizer) jab this afternoon and I'm only 65 and 2/3rds. They are carving through them in this area.
I asked about having the Astra/Zeneca vaccine and the jabber said they really didn't know which one was going to turn up until it arrived.
No problems or side effects (so far), the girl was very efficient and the jab was probably the most pain free I've ever had.
The organisation was fantastic with only about a 5 minute wait as I was a tad early but there was a waiting room and proper safeguards all round. Impressed.
There was even a touch of humour: notices at entrance and exit - 'In case of EMERGENCY shout HELP' (their emphasis...)

[Sunk]

// I'm be more interested in what Pfizer say. //

And what do Pfizer have to say?

They have said nothing. You are just making stuff up.

[jno]

teacake, the one-jab jabs won't be here for six months or so, the second jab of other vaccines will be sooner than that.

[teacake44]

Sunk, would you like to explain how I'm making (stuff) as you put it, up? I've made a valid statement, that Pfizer have made no comment on the UK government stretching the second dose out to 12 weeks. And one of my questions is why? Explain your comment, making stuff up please.

[teacake44]

Shoota Its really not about how efficient or organised the vaccine centers / doctors are, I all ready know that.

[teacake44]

Woof, the queue don't bother me either way because I'm already in it, whether I take it this month or in 2 months time.

[woofgang]

teacake "Pfizer have made no comment on the UK government stretching the second dose out to 12 weeks."

They have made a comment, they say they have no data on using the vaccine in that way. They are not disputing the amount of coverage given by a first dose.

[woofgang]

teacake "Woof, the queue don't bother me either way because I'm already in it, whether I take it this month or in 2 months time."

Does it work that way? I mean I am not sure they will keep asking you.

[teacake44]

NJ, when the UK government lifted restrictions in the summer in the middle of a pandemic ,and told people they could go on a staycation, eat out, basically do what they want, gives me little faith in their decision to ignore the instructions on how to give a life saving vaccine.