Lost Voice

[jennyjoan]

do you ever think that because you are own at the end of life - you don't have a voice anymore.

If you are put in care home - you've no voice.

If you can't speak - you've no voice

If you are in pain and you can't speak - you've no voice

If you try to complain in any situation - care home or any kind of home - you've no voice.

You may as well as be on your merry way - WITHOUT YOUR VOICE

[Atheist]

Jenny, you've got a voice here; and you've got your story to write.

[Paigntonian]

I thought we had a voice here.

[TonyV]

No jj but you can still write? Wat point are you trying to make?

[ummmm]

No, I don't agree. People in care homes have voices.

Do you think elderly people lose the ability to speak?

[jennyjoan]

look at poor Captain Tom Moore - 100 years old - do you think he had a voice to suggest to go to Barbardos - no he didn't.

Even after raising all that money "he had no voice" - no he had to do what he was told. What critter (100 years old) has a voice)

Perhaps the voice of REASON or perhaps MONEY played a part perhaps. (not from Tom) but from whomever

[woofgang]

JJ you are having the nightime miseries. Things will look better when its tomorrow.

[Mamyalynne]

You think he was coerced into travelling?

He strikes me as a man with a strong sense of what he wanted to do, he made a bucket list - whether it was wise or not is entirely different.

[ummmm]

Why didn't captain Tom not have a voice? What on earth makes you think that?

[jennyjoan]

No Ummmm - don't think people in elderly homes lose the ability to speak but from my personal point of view of the most effervescent person and loud person you could meet (my friend) is in a care home and can no longer speak for herself.

I have tried to ring her and my sister has tried to ring her - no, she is laid up on a chair with swelled ankles. I asked could the phone be brought to her - no. So I have no contact with my lovely wittiest friend you could meet. please - she had the biggest voice in history and now she is in a care home - she has no voice. Sorry Ummmm - perhaps speak from your own experiences but not from mine.

[Paigntonian]

Crazy to take a 100-year-old to Barbados, if that's what happened.

[Mamyalynne]

The rights and wrongs of his travel are well underway on another thread running in News - I think this is a different question altogether.

[jennyjoan]

Paignton - that's what happened - and now he has contracted COVID.

[Mamyalynne]

I take it that your friend in the care home doesn't have a mobile phone JJ or anyone who could get her a simple one to use?

[ummmm]

I have experience. I seen my grandparents weekly. Maybe you should visit your friend.

[pastafreak]

I didn't think he got Covid in Barbados. That's totally seperate to whether or why he went.

[THECORBYLOON]

How do you know Captain Moore couldn't have declined the offer?

[jennyjoan]

Mamy - she talks gibberish now and I did ask for a mobile phone for her yesterday - I would have bought her one. The lady who answered yesterday she would have to ask MANAGEMENT.

I asked for management - nowhere to be round.

Don't get me wrong these care home establishments are trying to do the best = but there is no time whatever that carers have time to charge phones up for the patients, get sorted out with credit etc etc.

I am upset in thinking that my friend thinks (nobody cares about her) with no contact.

[jennyjoan]

Somehow at 100 years of age - you could be a little coerced in thinking that is the right thing to do.

I'm not going to go into personal reasons of Captain Tom cos I don't know them but of my friend who when she went to the care home 2 years ago has definitely deteriorated. She loved a laugh, dancing full of life and to me that has gone. Gone gone gone.

she was in my house on the night of Christmas night - having a laugh - I brought her home that night and two months later in February - was gone into a care home.

[ummmm]

Go visit her then.

[jennyjoan]

^^^^ my friend was only 74^^ and of the fighting spirit