Why Most Countries Have Suspended Oxford Vaccine And Uk Gov Is Still Forging Ahead With The Vaccine?

[OldChestNuts]

Guardian just reported more deaths due to the vaccine and the UK gov thinks the British lives are are worthless compared with other nations?
I know the UK gov still argues the deaths vs the benefits are far greater in benefits. But I think the real benefits is the vaccine and the gov need to back the vaccine even its in question.

Are all other countries too stupid to suspend the vaccine or the UK gov putting lives at risk for the older age as they no longer a contributor to the society?

Any thoughts and view?

[Zacs-Master]

I’d like to know the general health and diet of the people who had blood clots. I’m betting they weren’t the healthiest of people in the first place.

[pixie374]

My mum reckons they had spent a year not working and watching netflix...

[Zacs-Master]

Your mum sounds as logical as you.

[pixie374]

Lol. Cheers :-)

[lady-janine]

Surely the choice is (a) possible blood clot of 3/4 people per 1 million, or (b) possibly catching covid from a possibly unknown source and being seriously ill for a long time and even dying.

Just go with what you consider the best odds.

[sanmac]

Precisely, LJ, go with the odds. That's exactly the reason why we would have taken the Oxford vaccine.

[bobbinwales]

Its best to read a link before posting it to check whether it supports your post 1. You say most countries. The article mentions only two?
2.the who and European medecines body says its safe
3. Theres no proven link. People without AZ die of blood clots
4 vaccines and normal tablets like paracetamol are never more than 99 999% safe
5 the benifits far outway any possable miniscule risk
6. 2 clot deaths after Pfizer, should they stop that vaccinne?

[emmie]

i had the Oxford AZ jab and had side effects, but i don't fear anything more, the second jab should be at the end of April.

[Peter Pedant]

oops for the first time
someone in France ( Marie-Claire I admit) HAS counted up the number of deaths if you delay vaccinations

first spotted today

quite alot on the Beeb today - People are dying in France AND refusing vaccine

[drmorgans]

Increased risk or fear of litigation?

[woofgang]

Pixie "Woof //no vaccine EVER has ever been totally safe.//
That's my point, and several have disagreed. But there is ia difference in responsibility when you are advocating a vaccine, to someone who is fine. It's your fault.
Somebody getting a virus, is nobody's fault. You have to be so sure with vaccines, and not just that they are safer than a virus."

That is the same as the reasoning behind every single other preventative treatment. so why is the covid vac different?

[davebro]

Is this the MMR causes autism argument again?

[burlyshirley]

The covid vac. is different because if anybody dares not to have it they are labelled 'idiots', 'morons', 'lunatics' etc etc etc and presumably are not going to be allowed into certain venues in the near future. Never know that to happen with any other vaccine !!

And again, headline news on the radio this morning, blood clots and the A-Z vaccine in this country. Yes maybe only a handful have had blood clots, but for that handful, it is an out and out disaster. I say again, I am glad I didn't have the A-Z and will not accept it in the future.

[pixie374]

It's no different, woof. Exactly the same.

[pixie374]

Yes, the pressure is different this time.

[davebro]

"The covid vac. is different because if anybody dares not to have it they are labelled 'idiots', 'morons', 'lunatics' etc etc etc "

How are they "labelled" - I had my first (AZ) jab but no one knew. I don't know what other people have had. How the heck can anyone be labelled unless they make their affairs public?

Maybe they will have to walk around ringing a bell and shouting "Unclean, unclean".

[pixie374]

Or carry a card.

[Zacs-Master]

burleyshirly makes the argument for people having vaccine certificates, so that we can know who the tinfoil hat brigade are!

[davebro]

I have had various vaccinations during my life (I don't even know what they were during childhood). I have nothing to show as proof. I will not subscribe to any such scheme for the covid vaccine & will not show proof that I had it. If that means being refused service (anywhere) I will walk away.

[davebro]

PS If other countries don't want to use the AZ that means more for us & less risk of a 3rd wave.