Sitting Bull D N A

[tiggerblue10]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59062133

I find this stuff fascinating but I thought tracing DNA through hair was already a thing. What do I know! Ha

Anyway, I doubt very much my ancestors were famous but my dad did a DNA test and it showed he has traces of Italian, Phoenician and Jewish ancestry. Has anyone done one of these tests and what were the results?

[cashier]

He looks a lot like him thought, doesn't he? As you said, fascinating.

[pastafreak]

I too find this fascinating and would like to know more.
There were stories of possible native American ancestry on my father's side. He came from South Carolina so it was quite possible. A few years ago, my brother and I learned of cousins we'd not known of. They were our dad's brothers children...and their mother was Native American. I bought a DNA kit for my brother, but because of illness he never used it. I think it's my turn.

[pixie374]

No... my sister did a lot of our ancestry stuff. Nothing unexpected though, most recent ancestors, Iceland and Sweden.
I'm not the slightest bit bothered about any further out.

[237SJ]

I have had a DNA test taken. Nothing very exciting was thrown up. I have a copy of my father's family tree back to 1550 so there isn't much that the DNA tests can tell me anyway. I'm not sure how far back they go as DNA strands die out.

[Peter Pedant]

one more thing
you need a hair root ( bulb I think)
and the cells are clonal - not mixed and of one type ( should there be variation within the host)

Poor Harry and I dont often say THAT had his stolen and sold by one of his army pals. And yes, Prince Chuck IS his father

Yeah one of my grandfathers brothers ( there were 11) married a Boerse with 16 siblings - so they had 34 brothers and sisters in law

and my grandfather was in India for 200 y ( yes him ) and I have 20% Indian blood which doesnt surprise me but has everyone else
No white girls so the EIC clerks married Indian girls up to about 1820.

[pixie374]

//Poor Harry and I dont often say THAT had his stolen and sold by one of his army pals. And yes, Prince Chuck IS his father//

That didn't need DNA... just look at the placement of their eyes.

[Peter Pedant]

what - - they are (both) too close together?
They thought it was the red head army officer
not the Egyptian grocer

[pixie374]

Yes. A lot of Diana's family have red hair. Hardly surprising...

[tiggerblue10]

I've always said that, Pixie. They both have close set eyes. And his mother hadn't even met Hewitt until after Harry was born.

Anyway, back to DNA. I'm thinking of getting a kit for my mum too. Might bring up something different despite both my parents coming from the same village.

Do it, Pasta :o)

[Barmaid]

As a long time researcher of family history, I did my DNA a year ago. The ethnicity results are a pointless bit of fun. The links to others are what helps, but you still need a good paper trail.

Yesterday I solved someone else's mystery of who their great grandfather was thru DNA.

Realistically you'll be lucky to get links back further than 4 or 5 generations. Altho I've established a paper trail and shared DNA with a descendant of my 4x g grandfather on one side.

If you do do it, test with one of the big companies such as ancestry or 23 and me, then upload the raw data to places like my heritage, ftdna and gedmatch. However unless you are prepared to put the time in to build a family tree it's fairly pointless.

[pastafreak]

I'd like to go s family tree...particularly my father's side. But I discovered a few years ago that proper birth records weren't kept in South Carolina when he was born. Doing it from this side of the pond is also difficult.

[pixie374]

Nowadays, it really is fairly pointless- as anyone can put their names on a birth certificate, parents or not.

[jno]

depends what sort of tests. OH did one and it went right back and showed Neanderthal and Denisovian DNA, and when and where ancestors came out of Africa etc. But not who grandparents were.

[jno]

pixie

https://pagesix.com/2021/04/12/prince-harry-looks-just-like-grandfather-prince-philip-in-his-30s/

[pixie374]

Yes... jno... I'm sure the rumours were fun, for whoever started them. But... most of us can see lol.

[ferlew]

I did one of those Ancestry DNA tests, and it certainly opened my eyes.
This is why....
I have been doing my family tree for 15 years or more, and all of my mother's side are Yorkshire folk, right back to the early 1700s.
I never knew my father, and Mum told various tales as to who he was.
There were however whispers (mostly from my Mum's own sister) that said my Uncle was my father. Now he, and his family were all Scots.
This is the mix my DNA test came up with.
"Ethnicity Estimate
Your DNA looks most like DNA from these 4 world regions
We compare your DNA against a worldwide reference panel to see which populations your DNA looks most like.
Scotland47%
Ireland19%
England & Northwestern Europe19%
Sweden & Denmark15%
See other regions tested
1,500+"

What would you suppose from that? I know what I'm thinking.

[ferlew]

Just to add, Mum's Mum was from Ireland. All her Dad's side were the Yorkies.

[Peter Pedant]

Prince Harry looks just like Prince Philip in his thirties

hmmmm pity he doesnt behave like Prince P then isnt it? hur hur hur

[Barmaid]

Ferlew, I largely ignore the ethnicity estimates - they change as more people get tested. However, I'd say there is a large chunk of Scottish in you.

For me, the power in autosomal dna testing is in your matches - the size of the match and the number of segments and you can then triangulate matches and work out links to people. I have found it extremely useful in knocking down some brick walls that record only research has had me stumped.

In the Sitting Bull case, they actually had some of his dna which was more helpful. Most of us just have to rely on comparing results to the results of others and then using those results to make connections.

[ferlew]

Barmaid, I think I am going to assume there was some truth in the whispers. The DNA result coupled with the facts that my aunt told me he was my Dad, plus the fact there is a strong facial resemblance just about caps it for me. My requests over the years have been met with a wall of silence from family members.