Richard III

[tiggerblue10]

If it turns out that these are Richard III remains, do you think there should be a state funeral?

http://www.telegraph....h-a-curved-spine.html

http://news.uk.msn.co...d-iii-state-funeral-3

[NOX]

It wasn't actually a serious question Mike1111, it doesn't matter what qualifications anyone say they have on a website but since you're so bothered I probably should have included my city and guilds in cooking I got in prison and my World's Best Dad certificate that my little girl gave me for my birthday. l ol.
Either way why don't you just expand on your opinions on the subject so at least your opinions make sense?

[Mosaic]

(stepping in between Nox and Mike)

Leave it! ee's not worf it!

(too late - one falls to the floor, stunned -or is it killed? - by a well-aimed whack from a rolled-up cerstifickate)

What would the 'Stenders closing theme sound like played on krumhorns?
Just keeping it in the History spirit.

[jno]

mike seems to be suspended... doubtless for criticising Richard III. Shame, looks like the debate won't happen, and I was genuinely interested.

[joggerjayne]

Suspended for criticising R3 ?

Harsh!

[Mosaic]

JJ, it's a pro-Tudor conspiracy.

Mike suspended? really?

[pkjk]

It seems doubtful that anyone no matter how well they do, can get a fully approving press after they die. Look at Elvis. But one thing is certain; a king of England deserves a proper memorial, (well, if he's controversial, let the memorial acknowledge that) and a formality for his finality.

[whiskeryron]

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NOX
The Richard III society in my experience seek to give a balanced view of the life and career of Richard III, previously Richard Duke of Gloucester. Mike11111 seems to have missed the fact that he was his brother's right hand man and extremely well thought of prior to the spin doctor nonsense of the Tudors. He was an excellent general, lived for many years in Yorkshire //

Well said nox. I agree with everything you have said. How dare they drag the name of this well beloved monarch through the mire. Hail to Richard.

WR>

[mustardseed]

I've just read all these comments re Richard 111 - wow, wonder if any of the leaders of today will provoke any interest at all in 500 years' time - I doubt it!
For what it's worth, if the tests confirm his identity, then the remains should be interred with due respect at York Minster. Richard was loved and respected in the North and the city of York bravely recorded their sorrow at his death.

[flicrat]

Sorry Mosaic but I did point out the DNA results would not be back till Christmas. An instant child of our times? Nox well done for a reasoned exposition. Cheers F -the one armed bandit!

[NOX]

Cheers Filcrat, glad you didn't cease to post:) and Mosaic lol that was too funny.

[starone]

No definitely not. We cannot afford it.

[Barmaid]

I'll chuck in my 800 m swimming badge and raise you a Cycling Proficiency.

No, I do not consider a state funeral would be appropriate. The point of a funeral is for those who are living to remember the contemporary dead. However, if the remains are RIII's he should be reburied with the reverence that ought to be afforded to a long dead monarch (he is not after all a recently deceased member of royalty and given that he died in 1485, no one could really mourn him with any seriousness - and by that i mean in an emotional way not in a nationalistic way) . I agree York may well be a suitable resting place given that is where he was loved. but given he has (if it is him) been in Leicester for nigh on 530 years, what's wrong with a suitable tomb there? It may not be thought of a royal stronghold now but in the 14th and 15th century it was an important town. THe castle was a regular seat of Royalty and the Dukes of Lancaster.