Teamwork

[c00ky83]

Is it just me, or is "teamwork" just an over-rated load of bull?

[january_bug]

For lighthousekeepers yes. 

[Piper-AK]

Have you just had a bad day at work lol?

[c00ky83]

No...bad interviews.  Any lighthouse keeper jobs going?!

Seriously though, even in a team you have to do your own thing, and end up carrying others on your own effort.  I've worked in a team, but apparently it wasn't big enough!

[january_bug]

Well, I'm not sure about "doing your own thing", more "taking responsibility for your own input into the team". 

I know how you feel though.  I just got rejected from a top job for having "too much" work experience. 

You just can't win sometimes!

[caracasjim]

You are dead right.Helping others never shows up in your paycheck and is never valued when it comes to your yearly assessment.Better still if you don't help others then as long as you get your assignments finished then it could mean more bonus for you.Strange how companies still push all that "teamwork" crap.I thought "teamwork" was something the "MD" always delegates to someone else.Or is that just "work"???

[january_bug]

carcasjim - God I hope you're being sarcastic.  If not, then God I hope I never work either with you, nor have cause to require the products or services made by the company you work for. 

[nodumbblonde]

God bless your innocence january_bug.

[january_bug]

I'm sorry - what!?!

Wanna back up that patronising comment with something more!?

Come on!

[twiglet4frog]

only place i can see relavent teamwork is in emergancy services and military, when it comes down to sales etc its just backstabbing and who can s*rew over who to get the next rung of the career ladder and then claim he is a great team leader!!

[january_bug]

So what about teaching, or law?

What about the fact that your secretaries are part of your team?  If they didn't pull their weight, then you lot wouldn't get any bonuses at all cos your work wouldn't be done. 

Catering requires teamwork. 

Maybe people have forgotten in their old, bitter and twisted ways, but just managing to get on with people in the office is part of teamwork. 

Teamwork doesn't mean pulling together like an all singing all dancing chorus line, or playing like the Welsh Rugby team, it just means working with other people in the course of your day. 

[c00ky83]

My point exactly january - I've a proven record of working with people and getting on well, but now they expect me to play rugby for Wales or something.  Just not necessary.

[MargeB]

I think teamwork is a very important part of a healthy office environment. I mean, unless the diverse members of a group (MD, line manager, secretaries, engineers) all come to an agreement that, under certain circumstances, maybe, just maybe they will not shove a 12 inch blade into each other from behind, or maybe forestall the twisting action, how could any company operate?

Anyone who thinks things are any different, good luck! Just hope you like the feel of cold steel...

[january_bug]

Thanks MargeB - it's nice to hear that an older (sorry!) wiser (you're welcome!) person has the same sentiments as me about teamwork.  Perhaps you won't get a patronising response, because of your additional years. 

cooky83 (by the way I'm an 83 too, I guess we're in about the same position!) - I have come up with a theory, but if you use it too and we apply for the same job they'll catch us out! :-p  Here's what you put:-

"During my gap year, I worked as part of a team to scale Mount Kilimanjaro backwards without the aid of ropes, or shoes.  When we reached the top, I wrote down my thoughts that I had had during the ascent, and now a major medical company is developing my cure for the Ebola virus.  Upon reaching the bottom again, I single-handedly dug a hole for a well in a local village, but worked as a team to build the mechanism.  This has saved 3000 lives already.  Upon returning home I have once again taken up my position of captain of a national sporting team and part time orchestral player.  I was the MD of Young Enterprise Company of the Year and have my DofE Gold (which I achieve with a broken leg whilst literally carrying a team member whose life I had just saved).  I have recently resigned my position as MD of Tesco and oh yes, and my Daddy is one of your major clients."  :-p

How's that?  I think it probably still wouldn't be good enough! :-p

[c00ky83]

lol, I think that's the sort of crap they're after!  As long as they don't want proof...

[january_bug]

Again - just bribe enough referees and you'll/we'll be sorted!

See you at the top of the corporate ladder mate - good luck! :-)

[Gevs1966]

of course if you come across in an interview as arrogant and think you know it all as well as being heard to be cynical about what the employers wnat then it's no wonder you didn't get offered the job is it......

Interviews are mainly about personality and responsiveness not qualifications and experience.

[january_bug]

If you think either of us would ACTUALLY say that, then it's amazing that YOU have a job. 

Please, credit us with some intelligence.  We're just two frustrated young people trying to get a foot on the career ladder.  If you can't offer support, then frankly just don't bother please.